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    No I mean that this has been discussed on here before. I don't have the answers but I wish that they had been kept in an area where they could be found. Rather than going through the whole process again and maybe coming up with a different combination of answers. That's where the mistakes can occur. You need to ask the questions!
    Something like trim combinations is a major part of a resto.

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    I think you'll find that there is a couple of other threads on Club reg/permits. The terms vary from to state and state and club to club. This thread seams to have led down the path of being centred on NSW and maybe should now be titled 'Club reg v full reg NSW'. I'm with the Australian Street Rod Federation - no club requirements for club permit Australia wide other than being a financial member. I dont have anything against the club requirements that some have (attend meetings/runs) but would rather not have to unless i wanted to. Having said that if there were a Sandman club, something i was a little specifically more passionate about I would look to join and be an active member (perhaps we could start one). To initially register on club plates with VicRoads the permit has to be signed off by the club and you have to have a RWC or vehicle inspection done by an authorised club rep. Cheers, Jeza

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    Wow lots of topics, lots quick responces, and lots of strong views.

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    If it doesn't have the FACTORY warrantee, it's a modification.(although none of the bathurst cobra "bits" were warrantee'd).
    In my opinion that's the easiest way to do it.

    Regos (my perfect world)
    Regular rego- Australia wide, and green slip part of your licence.
    Historic rego- Australia wide, STOCK, cheap, limited to club events.
    Modified rego- Stringent pink slip, 50 days a year use, logged with the RTA/RMS (etc) via their website.

    And by stock I mean as that vehicle left the dealership. It annoys me the amount of fake GT's that have Historic rego. If they were built as white 6 cyl column shift fairmonts, they shouldn't have rego as 393ci electric blue GT's.

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    Hey Big Rob, just out of curiosity what's your clubs maintenance run limit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by V8VAN View Post
    Hey Big Rob, just out of curiosity what's your clubs maintenance run limit?
    Once again, the clubs don't make the rules, the RTA/RMS make them. Car clubs can't 'limit' maintenance runs.

    A maintenance run is just that, a drive to the closest practical servo or similar. Under the old system, I believe that there was an arbitrary limit of 5 miles/8 km, but this was obviously impractical for country guys. I believe the current wording is 'reasonable distance'. So, test drives, warm-ups & petrol fill-ups within a 'reasonable distance' from home would all qualify. If you live 40 km out of town & have to drive those 40 km just to fill the tank, then that's a reasonable distance.

    Any other work, like if you have to drive to a panelbeater or exhaust shop or whatever, you simply ring the club registrar tell him that on a certain date your car rego number H-xxxxx will be driving to that premises & will be returning say 4 days later or a date to be determined. The registrar then records it. The RTA have made it pretty simple really, in practical terms they don't want any unnecessary cars on the road during week days in an effort to reduce traffic congestion. What you do on weekends is between you & your club.

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    Sounds like going for a blue slip. You need to book in for a blue slip before leaving. Then if you get pulled up the police can check you are legitamently driving an unregistered car. Effectively it sounds as though a historic plated car is more or less unregistered. Similar to concessional rego for farm machinery or plant operating along a road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    Effectively it sounds as though a historic plated car is more or less unregistered. Similar to concessional rego for farm machinery or plant operating along a road.
    It IS concessional rego. Its official title is HCRS, Historic Concessional Rego Scheme. The form we fill out to begin the process is the same form concessional machinery owners use. As I said earlier, at $60 per year including green slip, used properly, it's a bargain.

    One thing though, it is still a proper & legal registration, unlike the old system which was a permit to move an unregistered car.

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    No it's not the same as concessional machinery rego. They don't have compliance plates. Hence they can't have full road rego. You can't get concessional rego for a farm ute for example that has a compliance plate. Only full rego. Which is a pain if you have two properties a few km apart and an old farm ute.
    Headers had all sorts of issues because the RTA declared they had to have working brake lights. Not possible as they are hydrostatic drive. No brake pedal. They eventually came to their senses on that.
    I still think it should be eased up. No club affiliation and cheaper rego for cars over 30 years old. No one is going to go back to a 30 year old car for a daily driver.
    As I said, similar in the way that it is not proper rego, just a permit to go from a to b.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    No it's not the same as concessional machinery rego. They don't have compliance plates. Hence they can't have full road rego. You can't get concessional rego for a farm ute for example that has a compliance plate. Only full rego. Which is a pain if you have two properties a few km apart and an old farm ute.
    Headers had all sorts of issues because the RTA declared they had to have working brake lights. Not possible as they are hydrostatic drive. No brake pedal. They eventually came to their senses on that.
    I still think it should be eased up. No club affiliation and cheaper rego for cars over 30 years old. No one is going to go back to a 30 year old car for a daily driver.
    As I said, similar in the way that it is not proper rego, just a permit to go from a to b.
    You're taking my words too literally. It's the concessional part that is the same, in that it is restricted use, concessional in cost, but legal rego. Same application form, same sequential plate numbering system, just different in the way that use is allowed. In a legal & insurance sense it has the same standing as full rego, as long as you're driving within the rules. The old 'permit to move' scheme however, was a legal minefield.

    All cars pre-1970 have no compliance plates either, & the vast majority of H-plated cars would be pre-1970.

    You say that no one is going to use a 30 year old car as a daily driver. Sadly that's the biggest form of system abuse. There have been many instances of people driving things like EHs & old Valiants etc. to work every day on H-plates. There was one instance where a guy on the Central Coast drove a H-plated Morris Minor to school every day on P-plates!! He was even parking it out the front of the school grounds, in plain sight, all day, in 'No parking' zones & getting several parking tickets before it was picked up.

    Dr Terry

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    I suppose i meant dole bludgers are not going to buy 30 year old cars. Maybe they would. Who knows.
    Anyhow, we will forever be ripped off for rego in NSW no doubt.

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