please help hq sandman???

[Valencia]

Is there more than one shade of orchard metallic because i have seen a lighter one on a torana

[Taily]

Is there more than one shade of orchard metallic because i have seen a lighter one on a torana

I'm not sure. I always thought it was one of the colours that looked quite dark in low light and quite bright in the direct sunlight.

[r0bb0]

found some more useless info today regarding the paint code and the long middle tag
wm70rdl266096q
wm-belmont
70-panel van
r-253 high comp
d- 1974
l2- Adelaide
66096 build
q- hq
was looking at old holden colour chart from 1973 and orchid was not available for belmonts
Image.jpg

[HK1837]

found some more useless info today regarding the paint code and the long middle tag
wm70rdl266096q
wm-belmont
70-panel van
r-253 high comp
d- 1974
l2- Adelaide
66096 build
q- hq
was looking at old holden colour chart from 1973 and orchid was not available for belmonts
Image.jpg

That is right, and officially the only way you could normally get metallic on a Belmont in 1974 was with a Sandman optioned Belmont. But CTV (colour trim variation) was a relatively easy thing to do, not only normal colours where they shouldn't be but also totally left field colours as well like a HK colour on a HQ etc. So whilst Orchid says your HQ is more than likely a Sandman, it isn't an iron clad guarantee.

[buickzz]

Metallic coloured vans were common in HQ series and certainly during 1973 and 1974, very few of them were Sandmans. None of the 1973's could have been Sandmans, but they were metallic coloured and I don't believe that you should use metallic paint as one of the basis for determining whether a vehicle is a Sandman. HK has a much better and mnore comprehensive list of ways to sort out what was what.

[Vombil]

That is right, and officially the only way you could normally get metallic on a Belmont in 1974 was with a Sandman optioned Belmont. But CTV (colour trim variation) was a relatively easy thing to do, not only normal colours where they shouldn't be but also totally left field colours as well like a HK colour on a HQ etc. So whilst Orchid says your HQ is more than likely a Sandman, it isn't an iron clad guarantee.

I tell you one thing... if you're an HQ Sandman owner holding your hopes of legitimacy on some centre console mounts you'd have to be te type of fella that enjoys a punt as well

[mauser]

I tell you one thing... if you're an HQ Sandman owner holding your hopes of legitimacy on some centre console mounts you'd have to be te type of fella that enjoys a punt as well

As we have discussed previously, I dont know why you would order a HQ Belmont van in '74 and option it to be a 2-seater with bucket seats, CTV order the metallic paint, tack in a V8 with a 4-speed and not tick the box for the Sandman package on the order form. Without the downrated GVM as a discouragement I doubt most people would violently object to the addition of the console, GTS guards and dash. If the van was built on spec for dealer lots, I would imagine it didnt have those options unless it was a Sandman. HQ Kingswood utes on the other hand could of been common with the above options and not be a Sandman.

Mauser

[Vombil]

As we have discussed previously, I dont know why you would order a HQ Belmont van in '74 and option it to be a 2-seater with bucket seats, CTV order the metallic paint, tack in a V8 with a 4-speed and not tick the box for the Sandman package on the order form. Without the downrated GVM as a discouragement I doubt most people would violently object to the addition of the console, GTS guards and dash. If the van was built on spec for dealer lots, I would imagine it didnt have those options unless it was a Sandman. HQ Kingswood utes on the other hand could of been common with the above options and not be a Sandman.

Mauser

my point is with the fakers. pretty easy to fake one if you have a buckets manual v8 belmont built in 74. seen a few later models with 'sandman' specs that probably aren't, that's all. it's the doubt that creeps in. you're not going to pay a premium for a sandman if you can't prove it is one... after you've ticked all the boxes then you need to find if its original body. LOTS of question marks

[Valencia]

Dont think thats hainzys van

[Alien DNA]

Those side pipes are an acquired taste though