Thanks Craig,had a great time ,driving your van has got me inspired to get mine on the road, overtook a jeep being towed on a car trailer today and they pulled in here only done 6000 ks and dumped all it's trans fluid on a dirt rd had to feel a bit sorry for them,anyway best not hijack this thread but a big thank you to you and Gene for your hospitality and hope to come back to the west real soon cheers