Sandman Car Club Thread

[SLR_dave]

You are picking up what I am putting down BigRob. I was wondering along the lines of going to my MP and broaching the subject. I would love nothing more then my blown van on that kind of rego but I think we all know that won't happen. I'm thinking more of the factory HZ four door I've got. Being realistic I won't even come close to using 90 days, hence why I would prefer to pay $200 compared to $1000. Would also like it to be available for my 86 Mdl car licence tipper I have. Another $1000 per year! went of my small farm once last year, but it's to good of a truck to unrego, but come on $1000 that's a lot of dead money few people can afford.

I think you bring up an important point; is potential club membership potentially available to be abused, and thus potentially able to be used to override the current established (revenue raising for govt) system? As you suggest, it needs to be approached in such a way that govt(s) can see there is no intent, nor even possibility of this happening for such a thing to be a success, (in my opinion at least).

Words MP's like : Safe, cheap, efficient, simple, regulated, controllable, reversible. trial period, improvement, crime prevention, profitable.

Words MP's hate : Blown, hoon, Torana, dragway, V8, turbocharged, crowds and gatherings, legal precedent, non reversible, endangerment, costly, administration, public risk, reduced profit, waste. (and just a few others....).
Anyways,

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Perhaps a constructive initial approach would be a decent study of the RTA rules for each state, work out which existing frameworks allow some form of vintage/club registration - state by state/territory that is, and whether these rules can be utilised for the desired effect of National Club/Vintage/Special registation, through, or affiliated to this site.

It may be possible the groundwork is already just sitting there, already legislated in some form, close to desired as discussed in this thread, but not matching up nationally, just hidden in the RTA legislaion(s) - I imagine its possible, just maybe perhaps - all states need to have a way to handle vintage cars it strikes me.

Of course the RTA legislation will probably be around 300 pages for each State and Territory, sure, but you gotta know your stuff before you go to government anyway or its usually a waste of time - unless you have a big issue and are prepared to play roulette with the govt (and it takes heaps of work as well - like heaps for years!). Seems better to go along with something the government was maybe considering doing anyway and assist that function?
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On club membership fees for members with club registered vehicles, if paid up membership to a registered club is necessary to do something like this, and it is deemed desirable, it is quite possible this would only require (legislatively) a minimum of 1 dollar or something, .. but this draws me to other ideas presented in this thread

If this site was restructured with a paid up section whether it was 1 dollar, or, if it was say 15- 20 dollars per year, (or more), how would that really change the forum in actuality? - it's ranked anyway, so a simple idea would be that paid up members could just become ‘driving members’ underneath of their current site rank for instance.. But I would also understand people having concerns, I can see a number of areas at a glance where this could cause some issues.

Community groups can get really messed around when legal charters get placed over them, so this would need to be carefully considered I imagine.

How would the moderators (or club president/secretary/board/) decide the cost of membership, and would they be paid for their work?.... would there then need to be a vote on who is on the board?.... Would it need to be 'democratic'? is there a danger this could this outrank the current moderators..? What if a member gets elected to a position and it turns out they are real slack at forfilling their elected role? How would all this sort of thing be handled ? etc

It might be (perhaps) more productive to investigate first whether there is a way to come up with a way to do club or 'weekender' reg under current RTA regs anyway, at a stretch, maybe theres a way of doing this without formalising a club structure?

I would imagine that it is possible to truthfully submit to government that allowing club/weekender registration would be profitable to government; There would be heaps of roadworthy vintage, collectable and historic cars sitting in sheds around the country, many would be usually or indefinately unregistered, that owners would love to have 'weekender' rego on. So its arguably a revenue raiser, thats an angle to remember i reckon.

So not against the idea at all, but maybe there's another way to do it.
(Um.. No, I did not just put my hand up to read 2400 pages of State and Territory legislation... by the end of the week, ... or month !!) lol