ok...so i found the right one and then dug up a standard one and removed both from the winch cables..the larger one is for standard wheels...the smaller one is for the rally 2s and IS the one off the hj xx7 sandman ute..[verified by the person who removed it and put it away..hence i couldnt find it]..
there is enough difference to say that you cant chop one down from the standard one and it would be correct...
and here is a pic of the n67 winch plate...
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