Yes i know what people say ...after hj they didnt make kingswood sandmans . But wheres the memo that states there is absolutly no chance of being able to get one, for a whole matter of reasons and cercumstances. In the reality of the car making, and what people could order in the day and the availability of the exact ....o hang on no theres no belmont vans available no you can not have your sandman with the m. As you go into hz when the models were getting along i can possibly understand they were only available in your m, but early on in the hx models ....? open minds.