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    There is no way they were special build. They'd simply be vehicles that HDT dealers (ie the dealers that are the D in HDT) had in stock or pulled from GMH stock. At least one was a used car.

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    Good on you Byron, Peter Brock's commodore probably came from the exact same stock too in that case. He probably just fitted a racing harness to get through scrutineering. My point, which I thought was obvious, is that the van's would have had certain mod's done to them for durability..strength etc and I suspect this is correct. None of them would have come back alive otherwise. Who's to say they were not built on the line, a heck of a lot of other special vehicle's were, and still are.

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    FFS, Whatever. That's right Robbo you'd know better

    The rally cars were special builds and they weren't built solely for HDT either. Just like any other competion vehicle. WTF would you need to beef up a support vehicle when all you needed was available out of stock - like an Ambulance pack HZ van with an outback pack applied What were they going to beef up on them?

    Plus it is well known at least one of the vans was a standard secondhand car. And it survived fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbo View Post
    Good on you Byron, Peter Brock's commodore probably came from the exact same stock too in that case. He probably just fitted a racing harness to get through scrutineering. My point, which I thought was obvious, is that the van's would have had certain mod's done to them for durability..strength etc and I suspect this is correct. None of them would have come back alive otherwise. Who's to say they were not built on the line, a heck of a lot of other special vehicle's were, and still are.

    Cheers.

    I know of quite a few cars that have been in the variety club bash and the port adelaide bash. I have actually even owed a couple if them. No special mods except for big springs and Tyres. They just keep on going (and they get bashed!)..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mook View Post
    I know of quite a few cars that have been in the variety club bash and the port adelaide bash. I have actually even owed a couple if them. No special mods except for big springs and Tyres. They just keep on going (and they get bashed!)..
    Don't think they would have been especially built on the production line. Just optioned a bit better, trans, country pack etc.

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    One was for sale in Just Cars, July 2008 and went on E-Bay in October 2008 I've got photos of each but can't get them to load up. Will have to do it tomoz when the missus is about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK1837 View Post
    HDT dealers (ie the dealers that are the D in HDT)
    Were there such things s 'HDT dealers' before the Brock ownership of HDT.

    AFAIK under Firth & then Shepard ownership, there were no distinct dealers as such.

    The HDT dealer network which sold HDT (Brock) Commodores, was established in 1980 to sell the VC Brock as their first model.

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    As far as I am aware there were. I agree HDT was a front created by John Bagshaw but afaik there were dealers that acted as that front and taht is the channel cars came through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HZSM50 View Post
    Your dead right there it is a great yarn, and I was just thinking if there was a way to research the history of it.

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    It reminds me of one I heard about Peter Brocks A9X. It's long winded but apparently true.
    DO go on ....
    Would love to hear what its about!!

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    Attached are two photo's of the van's that where loaned to the team for the event from GMH plus the test car (Old Silver). The two other vans with Marlboro signage where owned by the rally team (George Shepheard ) and the race team (John Sheppard). As far as I am aware the two sign written vans where the workshop run arounds. The rally team van was used for many years after the Repco and was eventually painted in Castrol colours when the Castrol sponsored to Gemini's in various Australian and NSW State Championship events. The story I heard was that the race team van hit a wild horse or camel in outback Queensland and suffered a fair amount of damage.
    The rally cars where specially built for the event. 18 cars where specially built for the event with extra spot welding. Barry Ferguson who came 2nd in the 79 Repco bought the #17 car back a couple years ago and restored the car and has competed in a couple of historic events in the car. I have serviced the car on one event and I can not get over how basic the cars where in comparison to modern PRC version of a Commodore.

    Anthony

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyvan View Post
    HDT 007.jpg

    Attached are two photo's of the van's that where loaned to the team for the event from GMH plus the test car (Old Silver). The two other vans with Marlboro signage where owned by the rally team (George Shepheard ) and the race team (John Sheppard). As far as I am aware the two sign written vans where the workshop run arounds. The rally team van was used for many years after the Repco and was eventually painted in Castrol colours when the Castrol sponsored to Gemini's in various Australian and NSW State Championship events. The story I heard was that the race team van hit a wild horse or camel in outback Queensland and suffered a fair amount of damage.
    The rally cars where specially built for the event. 18 cars where specially built for the event with extra spot welding. Barry Ferguson who came 2nd in the 79 Repco bought the #17 car back a couple years ago and restored the car and has competed in a couple of historic events in the car. I have serviced the car on one event and I can not get over how basic the cars where in comparison to modern PRC version of a Commodore.

    Anthony
    Thanks Anthony,

    Very cool.

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