I'm sure someone can explain this to me. When holden announced it was to stop manufacturing cars in Australia it was because it was not profitable anymore and they were losing X amount of $'s every year. So how do you say 'we are losing money but well keep going for another four years' ?? If a business is losing money don't you shut up shop immediately ? Does it mean by 2017 holden will be in more debt than it is now.? If not then why are they shutting down at all.?