You are better off with the Holden than the HSV. Then mod the engine and brakes. That way you don't have all the bits hanging off them making them look like a cross-dresser! Plus you don't pay the HSV tax. If you get one i'll send you the mods I made to my Cross8 and before/after dyno runs. I' e been toying with buying a Cross6 tonner and putting the driveline out of a Cross8 or Adventra in it. For some stupid reason Holden didn't offer a V8 in the AWD tonner.