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    What was the Belmont in HQ is just called a HOLDEN in HJ-X-Z no Belmont commercials only sedans and wagons.
    I'm sure Byron would love to correct you and clear it all up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post
    What was the Belmont in HQ is just called a HOLDEN in HJ-X-Z no Belmont commercials only sedans and wagons.
    I'm sure Byron would love to correct you and clear it all up!
    No need to, you've essentially nailed it!

    The HOLDEN terminology is really only something I use as that is the form of and what the badges and transfers say on HQ-WB cab-chassis and HJ-WB base spec ute and van. In reality though they are simply for example HJ utility, HQ cab-chassis (2 x models for HQ: 6cyl and V8) or HX panel van, only in HQ does Belmont get used for ute and van (so for example HQ V8 Belmont panel van or HQ 6cyl Kingswood utility). The next level up is for example WB Kingswood utility, HZ Kingswood panel van.

    Never been 100% sure why GMH played around with naming and luxury levels. it can only be based upon marketing and sales I guess - as logic seems to go out the window in many cases. As Innuendo says HJ-HX still had Belmont sedans and wagons yet that name had gone from commercials by HJ. In HZ they tinkered again and made the base sedan and wagon an option package (A9K) on a Kingswood SL. The Kingswood luxury level existed in its own right on HZ ute and van, but it became an option on a Kingswood SL for passenger vehicles. Go figure? So in HZ there was no longer an alignment between the base commercial and the base sedan/wagon. Given how rare a HX Belmont sedan or wagon is today my guess is they were no longer selling many and fleet buyers were opting for the HX Kingswood, hence GMH realised the need for HZ Kingswood sedan and wagon and must have thought the Kingswood SL had too many goodies for a fleet vehicle?
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