Yep point taken, I started referring to H series to mean only HQ-HZ a while back when talking about Sandman, and realised its potential innaccuracy then, shouldnt have let myself get into the habit, it was just easier abbreviation, lazy of me, wondered if I was gonna get picked up on it, but wasnt and now I have been, yep, its easy enough to give the correct designation. Thank you Innuendo, I concur.