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    Thats the pain in the arse....each state goes by their own rules, which confuses everyone.

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    Queensland is real simple, "if it didn't come with it, then you cant have it."

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    You could always fit a 350 into HQ in NSW as far as I was aware. Later series you pretty much need to run them on gas and get an engineers certificate. Not sure how much this has changed now though. There seems to be lots of later LS1 conversions these days though.

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    I bElieve the HQ Ewe't had a 350 from the factory so you can argue it was an option any way. Bob Jane got them in station wagons as well. I really think the ruling about body style could be debated.

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    DHQ would be 73, most 74's were EHQ
    I had this conversation with Byron before. The letter changed with the ADR update. No real correlation with the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    I bElieve the HQ Ewe't had a 350 from the factory so you can argue it was an option any way. Bob Jane got them in station wagons as well. I really think the ruling about body style could be debated.

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    I had this conversation with Byron before. The letter changed with the ADR update. No real correlation with the year.
    I do know how the prefix letters are tied to the ADR upgrades but the fact is that in HQs AHQ and BHQ were 1971 to early 1972, CHQ was mainly 1972, DHQ was mainly 1973 and EHQ was mainly 1974, it wasn't based on the year but the way that ADRs were introduced panned out that way.
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    I'll be able to confirm all the specifics next week as im taking a break for a week off work, and getting back in touch with the engineer when i get back. Spoke today briefly to him and VicRoads have implimented another rule that goes by vehicle weight to measure max cubic inches. Power becomes irrelavant now, which has always been a sticking point for engineers.
    eg- previously laws satated that the max cubes for a HQ was 400ci.....new rule formula says 427 is possible. One engineer i spoke to said he could pass 454ci if i did a bunch of chassis and suspension mods. this rang alarm bells for me because if i went for a 396ci BBC, because off the smaller cubes, i wouldnt need chassis and suspenion mods,....but the engine weight would be virtually the same. There are way too many grey areas between engineers.....but until i can get the law in black and white, i dont believe what i hear or see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien DNA View Post
    I'll be able to confirm all the specifics next week as im taking a break for a week off work, and getting back in touch with the engineer when i get back. Spoke today briefly to him and VicRoads have implimented another rule that goes by vehicle weight to measure max cubic inches. Power becomes irrelavant now, which has always been a sticking point for engineers.
    eg- previously laws satated that the max cubes for a HQ was 400ci.....new rule formula says 427 is possible. One engineer i spoke to said he could pass 454ci if i did a bunch of chassis and suspension mods. this rang alarm bells for me because if i went for a 396ci BBC, because off the smaller cubes, i wouldnt need chassis and suspenion mods,....but the engine weight would be virtually the same. There are way too many grey areas between engineers.....but until i can get the law in black and white, i dont believe what i hear or see.
    If you get a copy of VSB14 it sets out the NCOPs which are what Vicroads have signed off on, you will see that there has always been a weight to cubic capacity formula which uses the unladen weight of the heaviest sedan version of the model in question to calculate the cubic capacity in ccs. This in an HQ worked out to be 451 cubic inches, so yes the 427 is the largest allowed in an HQ. If your engineer has only just "discovered" this I think you need to look for someone with a better understanding of the regulations.
    https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/.../vsb_ncop.aspx

    Here is the link to the Dept of Transport site and has all the NCOPs in the form of VSB14 which has about 20 parts. I have been studying these and the 2nd and 3rd generation ADRs since starting the build of my ICV motorbike in 2007
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick61 View Post
    If your engineer has only just "discovered" this I think you need to look for someone with a better understanding of the regulations.
    Thats why ive gone with another engineer mate.....contradictory explanations didnt make me feel like i was talking to the right bloke.

    Thanks for the links mate

    We'll have to organise another catchup soon mate...was great last time

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    The year of the car isn't a calendar year either. I think it's September when they change over or close to. So it's either 73 or 74.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    The year of the car isn't a calendar year either. I think it's September when they change over or close to. So it's either 73 or 74.
    As in the original post, the chassis number of DHQ 8XXX5S would be a 1973 built 1973 model.
    The ADR plate from my 7/73 HQ prem wagon reads DHQ 91859M unfortunately I can't get the picture of the tag to load.
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