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    Quote Originally Posted by Valencia View Post
    Only one
    I actually need two

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    Quote Originally Posted by seavan View Post
    Absinth are those prices for a gts wheel or a hq sandman gts wheel you are quoting?
    GTS wheel as asked. Personally I think those prices apply to all sports wheels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alien DNA View Post
    Essentially you're paying for the horn badge... As reproduction ones are pretty average and not close enough to original
    bloody expensive horn badge... Would cost far less to have one correctly reproduced.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alien DNA View Post
    400 would be a good price... I base that off what my steering wheel looks like. That said, it could be a unicorn part for someone chasing one and wouldn't be surprised if people are willing to pay double that.
    you'd have to be a complete idiot to pay extra for a worn out or possibly broken steering wheel just because it has a sandman badge. I have five sports steering wheels I paid around $300 each for and all but one are crap but all were described by the sellers as good condition. Two others I purchased were broken and bent which I returned to the sellers.

    One I have is HQ SS, two are HQ GTS, one is LJ GTR and one is plain HJ. I have been after a Sandman wheel for a while and found one at a swap meet, guy wanted $500 and it was well worn and bent... He still had it at the end of the meet and wouldn't drop his price..... I didn't buy it.

    Also be aware guys, bent steering wheels are unroadworthy and if you get pulled over and the Policeman decides to check over you car and check the steering wheel you could be defected... A mate of mine with a LJ XU1 in Brisbane was defected recently for his GTR wheel with a broken rim.
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    As the pic at the start of the thread shows, theres a noticable difference in emblem inserts.....you either want the right badge or a 'good enough' repro badge. Its all in the details.

    Obvioulsy buying a bent and broken wheel at that price isnt common sense and yes you run the risk of getting in trouble with the boys in blue. I paid over that amount purely because it wasnt broken or bent. Sure the rim is slightly worn, but its still very very usable and will require a good clean and maybe a lick of paint on the spokes.....but having the choice of buying rare spares repro wheel or a genuine used in good condition, ill take the used one any day of the week. Whats nuts is paying $300 for a broken wheel......wouldnt part with any of my hard earn money for a broken wheel.....its a a useless part essentially that is only good for being hung in the garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien DNA View Post
    I paid over that amount purely because it wasnt broken or bent. Sure the rim is slightly worn, but its still very very usable and will require a good clean and maybe a lick of paint on the spokes.....but having the choice of buying rare spares repro wheel or a genuine used in good condition, ill take the used one any day of the week. Whats nuts is paying $300 for a broken wheel.......
    I would probably pay $400 for an original Sandman wheel in reasonable condition .. certainly wouldn't pay $800.. maybe $600 if it was really really good condition.. mine are all reasonable condition.... except one that is good condition (a lot of grain still showing)... I consider the others crap as they are quite smooth around some of the rim. I don't have broken or bent wheels but you can't really tell their condition from photos and rely on a sellers description when buying off the net.

    Having said that, one of my HQ GTS wheels can easily be converted to a Sandman wheel once Jason fixes his Sandman badge and prints them as per original... then I will have an original wheel with a nice Sandman badge for far less than $400.
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    Hey guys, hows the best way to check if a steering wheel that someone is selling is broken? You cant really put your foot on it & pull to test in front of someone. I remember going to look at a van in a Parramatta rd car yard years ago & the steering wheel looked fine, but when you grabbed it, it almost folded over. Also is it above the right hand spoke the most common place to break, & is there a way of reconditioning these wheels?

    cheers
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    The broken ones are going to be floppy as you say (any movement actually), probably don't need to put a foot on it, although that would probably reveal the one that is about to break! Not sure how that would go down with the seller!

    I put one away 15 years ago and recently got it out and the top is now floppy- very disappointed. Broken internally above the spokes on both sides. Looks perfect, makes me wonder how many on ebay are like this, I wouldn't buy one unless I saw it in person. Anyone any ideas what would cause this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandaro View Post
    The broken ones are going to be floppy as you say (any movement actually), probably don't need to put a foot on it, although that would probably reveal the one that is about to break! Not sure how that would go down with the seller!

    I put one away 15 years ago and recently got it out and the top is now floppy- very disappointed. Broken internally above the spokes on both sides. Looks perfect, makes me wonder how many on ebay are like this, I wouldn't buy one unless I saw it in person. Anyone any ideas what would cause this?
    Ive got a 3mm thick original wheel and ive got two 5mm wheels ,talking to fellas at the car shows most agree the 3mm are stronger and less prone to breaking ,i was at a swap meet talking to a fella who a few years back wrecked monaros etc and just about every gts wheel that came off a manual was bent.

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    Sean i would never ever sell a dud steering wheel to to anyone let alone a forum member as a matter of fact i have never sold any dud parts to anybody in my life thats not how i roll buddy i have bought plenty of used parts over the years and yes i have been burnt before thats why i wont touch nothing but NOS parts now

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    [QUOTE=Alien DNA;100224]As the pic at the start of the thread shows, theres a noticable difference in emblem inserts.....you either want the right badge or a 'good enough' repro badge. Its all in the details.

    i just got a repro one off Jason to put in one of my wheels just to make it a bit different ( building a Hj sandy replica from my old Hz ute ) so it's not a proper resto just a fun vehicle that I have most parts for has an efi and auto so just a tribute on the outside .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandaro View Post
    The broken ones are going to be floppy as you say (any movement actually), probably don't need to put a foot on it, although that would probably reveal the one that is about to break! Not sure how that would go down with the seller!

    I put one away 15 years ago and recently got it out and the top is now floppy- very disappointed. Broken internally above the spokes on both sides. Looks perfect, makes me wonder how many on ebay are like this, I wouldn't buy one unless I saw it in person. Anyone any ideas what would cause this?
    I reckon either a crash and the huge weight that's transferred to the steering wheel or when they are pulled off incorrectly. That are a weak design it seems. Maybe when the spokes were welded to the rim it weakened them too?
    Surely there must be a lot of people out there that have broken them that could tell how they did it????

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