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    The stocking of parts for production line assembly was not done on a JIT (just in time) basis when these cars were being built, that process came later. Holden often surplussed production line stock when they changed models. Their spare parts (HSPO) operated separately from the assembly plants as they ran two lots of purchasing teams. Their HSPO quality department at Dandenong often accepted supplier changed product compared to the quality processes today. HSPO continually purchased stock based on sales and only ran out when it was deemed not viable, or they superseded two parts into one because they looked similar or did the same job. Some changes were done because the tooling for a part was modified slightly to suit the next model. An example would be HQ consoles and HJ ones where they used the same tool for the lower floor section and a new top for the HJ. That is why the grains are different on the HJ ones.
    As there were NO computers for stock records in those days Holden and their dealers often over-ordered, over-stocked and even ordered the wrong part which they couldn't return.It was this abundance of surplus stock that enabled Rare Spares and many others to purchase it, store it and sell it at a later date.

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    Extra Information for Rally Wheels, Centre Caps, Dress Trim Rings and Wheel Nuts from Genuine Holden Parts Catalogues.

    Catalogue No. M37441 Issued: October 1973

    HQ
    WHEEL ASSEMBLY - Road
    WHEEL - 6.00 x 14" .......... Rally Type Wheel ................. 492351 ... 5

    HQ
    TRIM - Wheel Centre
    TRIM ............................. Rally type Wheel ................ 9928650 ... 5 (Short Tail Lion)

    HQ
    RING - Wheel Trim
    RING ............................. 6.00 x 14" Wheel ............... 2823098 ... 4

    HQ
    NUT - WHEEL Hub Bolt
    NUT .............................. Rally Type Wheel ............... 2825904 ... 20


    Catalogue No. UNKNOWN Issued: UNKNOWN (Likely late '74 early '75)

    HJ
    WHEEL ASSEMBLY - Road
    WHEEL - 6.00 x 14" .......... Rally Type Wheel ............... 9930999 ... 5

    HJ
    TRIM - Wheel Centre
    TRIM ............................. Rally type Wheel ................ 9934625 ... 5 (Long Tail Lion)

    HJ
    RING - Wheel Trim
    RING ............................ 6.00 x 14" Wheel ................ 2823098 ... 4
    RING ............................ Rally Type Wheel ................ 2823098 ... 4

    HJ
    NUT - WHEEL Hub Bolt
    NUT ............................. Rally Type Wheel ................ 2825904 ... 20

    Interesting that they have listed the centre caps as 5x per car where as the dress rims as 4x per car.
    The spare can't have the centre cap because of the winch on a Van or Ute and the Sedan had a bolt and wing nut.

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    Yeah. There's one of those inconsistancies between catalogues and reality. You didn't get 5 caps for the reasons stated but the catalogue says you did.....
    There is probably an update bulletin correcting that, but if you don't have the updates, the catalogue is lying.
    Vans.... This is the 2nd time round the block, 40 years later! talk about turning back the clock!

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    Im so so glad i have my date coded nuts 1962

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post
    Yeah. There's one of those inconsistancies between catalogues and reality. You didn't get 5 caps for the reasons stated but the catalogue says you did.....
    There is probably an update bulletin correcting that, but if you don't have the updates, the catalogue is lying.
    1980 HZ catalogue still has them listed as QTY 5.

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    And nobody ever got 5.....
    Vans.... This is the 2nd time round the block, 40 years later! talk about turning back the clock!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post
    And nobody ever got 5.....
    Well they probably shouldn't have! But I have 5x New Old Stock ones in the shed that were purchased at the same time. Likely because the parts manual said 5x.
    So maybe that was the evil plan? Hahaha...

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    Just for interest sake they list they list 5 caps for WB wire wheels and the alloy SLE/Sandman wheels but only 4 for alloy Statesman wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullys21 View Post
    From memory the chrome domed nuts came out for the GTS with disc brake rear ends as the wheel studs where a touch longer.
    The studs still stick out the same distance from the wheel. The extra length was to allow for the thickness of the disc as it went over the nuts also.
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