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[jennie285]

What Absinth said. Normally I think it's a bit disrespectful to be critical of prices just by looking at a photo online, but in this case I have no sympathy for the seller at all if he's laid out $7k on this believing it to be genuine and somehow worth $50k, or even $15k.

The whole "quick flip" thing doesn't sit right with me. I've seen people blatantly lie to original old owners to screw the price right down so they can flip it for twice the money without doing a thing to it. Those people aren't car enthusiasts, just scumbags, and are the direct reason hobbies like this get put out of reach of the average joe.

Dont get me wrong, I've made money on cars before. I never give a bullshit story to the seller though and the buyers usually ask me if its for sale and makes an offer.

I totally agree with the quick flip you mention Play...recently a chap bought a genuine sandman from a farmer, who lives west of here as he said he "genuinely wanted to restore it", and "all he ever wanted was a sandman", when he got us to verify it, (he was from Forbes) we told him it didn't have a matching chassis. I know what he paid for it (very little) and he sold it for $6K, now the next buyer is trying to sell of $7K they also phoned us and Rodney spoke to them regarding this issue, it was obviously in a prang in the 80's and didn't get a police stamp, there is no number at all on it. anyway point being I think that people who think they can make a quick buck usually can't.... The original guy should have restored it, and enjoyed it, as he was virtually given it by the farmer...anyway I can sleep at night knowing our vans are loved, and restored, and only re-homed when absolutely necessary.

[SLR_dave]

Yep I completely agree with that as well Jennie. Especially with used cars.

Earlier in the thread, Wombat mentioned Caveat Emptor (buyer beware). Consumer law ignored for a moment, I'd also add, there's a useful thing that goes with that which I'm sure we all learn at some point; 'If a deal looks to good to be true, it probably is'.

However, in an attempt to be a bit more helpful than that, it is now well established that the expression Caveat Emptor does not override either contract law or fair trading legislation. If there is a buyer who purchased the vehicle in misunderstanding of what it was, and is dissatisfied with the purchase, then they may have some recourse by contacting the Fair Trading Authority in the State (or Territory) that the vehicle was purchased in.

Of course, for any such recourse to be easily effective, it would be advisable the buyer should contact the FTA in the correct State fairly swiftly.

[Maysik]

contract law or fair trading legislation

Is all well and good, and it is there in New South wales as it would be in any state, however, getting theses bodies (Dept of Fair Trading and A.C.C.C) to act on your behalf is a totally different thing.

In New South Wales a positive outcome will not happen through any intervention by the Department of Fair Trading nor the A.C.C.C.

I know this from personal experience when attempting to deal with Jeep Australia re our dodgy Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland we purchased from Five Dock Chrysler Jeep Dodge.

All the Department of Fair Trade will do is take a report and lodge it against the business you complain about. That's it.

They then flick you to the A.C.C.C.

The A.C.C.C take a report from you and ask what you want done, i.e repair/replace/refund. They then send your 'wish-list' to the business/individual you have a grievance with. That's it.

Five Dock Chrysler Jeep Dodge basically told me to kick rocks, as can an individual. A.C.C.C will go no further than that. The ball is now in your hands to go through civil court.

In New South Wales the above mentioned bodies are toothless tigers.