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    Holy crap!!!!!! $60 to $80 US per battery swap for a 300klm range???? Think I'll stick with my petrol guzzling Landcruiser, it's cheaper to run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinth View Post
    Holy crap!!!!!! $60 to $80 US per battery swap for a 300klm range???? Think I'll stick with my petrol guzzling Landcruiser, it's cheaper to run.
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    $80 is for a battery swap for the model S that has a range of 550km with a 90kw/h battery. You then have to swap back to your own battery on the way home that will be waiting for you fully charged. Thats 1100kms for $80 only if you are in a hurry. Alternatively, you can plug into the supercharger for 20 minutes and get 80% charge for free. This power is all stored in batteries charged from one of Elon Musks other companies, Solar City. Not sure about the model 3 for battery swaps.

    If you own a Tesla you can drive from Melbourne to Sydney charging for free at any Tesla supercharge station. Thats all we have here in OZ but in the US you can drive from east to west for free.

    There are plenty of other ways to charge. A power point at home is one but it will take 10 hours or something like that for around $27 for a 550km charge.
    Thats alot of performance for minimal running costs. Its just the upfront cost that is prohibitive. I did read somewhere they will be doing a AWD version of the Model 3. Something like this maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTees View Post
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    $80 is for a battery swap for the model S that has a range of 550km with a 90kw/h battery. You then have to swap back to your own battery on the way home that will be waiting for you fully charged. Thats 1100kms for $80 only if you are in a hurry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Telsa
    It should also be noted that users will pay the swap price both on the initial exchange and when they return to pick up their old pack (fully charged).
    No, from their website it is $80 per swap so $80 per 550klm.

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTees View Post
    If you own a Tesla you can drive from Melbourne to Sydney charging for free at any Tesla supercharge station. Thats all we have here in OZ but in the US you can drive from east to west for free.
    Yeah right!!!! and how long will these free re-charges last??? someone has to pay for the power usage and building of these "supergharge stations".( US$500,000 per station).. and there will need to be a lot of them if the cheapest car only has a range of 300klm. It will be the same as Banks did in the early 80's when ATM's were introduced.... free to use and no charges on your card.... and we all know how long that lasted!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Telsa
    Question most heard during the presentation? Can I swap out my 60 kWh battery pack for a 85 kWh one? Yes, you can. You can even keep it forever; just be prepared for a serious invoice in the mail.
    How serious an invoice..... and that's just to swap to a 25kwh bigger pack.

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTees View Post
    There are plenty of other ways to charge. A power point at home is one but it will take 10 hours or something like that for around $27 for a 550km charge.
    Thats alot of performance for minimal running costs.
    Yep, that's fine if you only want to travel around town or within around 250klm from home and can leave it overnight charging. As for minimal running costs.... you need to factor in battery replacement... how long will a pack last? how much is a replacement pack? A 48 volt golf buggy has 8 x 6v lead acid batteries at a cost of $250ea which last around 3 to 5 years. I am assuming these Telsa's will be running Lithium batteries or something similar? Currently a 100ah lithium car battery cost from $1500 and up per battery.. I am assuming there would be at least 20 batteries in a pack.... so at least $30,000 for a new battery pack. They may do them cheaper but even at $20,000 per pack..... that's still a lot fuel for a petrol or diesel car... now living in Parkes we are lucky to do $2500 a year in fuel per car. When we were in Brisbane and I was towing a work trailer daily with a V8 HX ute my fuel bill was still only around the $5000 per year mark.
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