Sandman rims question

**Absinth** · 19-03-2011, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by SNDMN

G'day Byron, you're right mate, I guess I refer to them as SL/E wheels as thats what I mostly remember them on. But as you say they were really a GTS wheel first then used later on the SL/E. Is there any documentation, brochures or pictures you know of showing a late hZ Sandman fitted with the N67 wheel. All the brochures I have only show the Rally type wheel.

thanks again Tony

Old photo showing an original late HZ Sandman van with N67 rims....

Photo of Robbo's old late HZ Sandman ute with original N67 rims.

**SNDMN** · 20-03-2011, 07:41 AM

Thanks for the pics Absinth I really appreciate your help with this. I thought I had a picture of a WB van with them fitted somewhere but cant seem to put my finger on it right now.

I'm a little confused now on the change over date as both 9/78 and Dec 78 have been mentioned in this thread for Sandman fitment.:Chin:

Was there any reason you know of why GMH changed away from the rally to the N67 for Sandman or was it just something they did. I don't think the N67 is a particulaly good lookin wheel and they were a bugger to clean.

My wife has a set similar on her UC SL/E back in the day. I ended up painting them black and polising all the raised spokes which was a b*stard of a job but jeez it made them look better and easier to keep clean.

thanks again for your help, cheers Tony

**HK1837** · 20-03-2011, 08:29 AM

I can even tell you the exact date that the change happened as it is on the ordering procedure. There will be a copy of this info in my book when it is done. What you'll probably find is that the change didn't happen on the same date at all plants. The date is September was the say the revision made it into the ordering procedure so that dealers and buyers knew of the specification change. There would have been some cars half done waiting for something so it is possible they weren't finished until early October.

**Absinth** · 20-03-2011, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by SNDMN

I'm a little confused now on the change over date as both 9/78 and Dec 78 have been mentioned in this thread for Sandman fitment.:Chin:

thanks again for your help, cheers Tony

Tony, go by what Byron says as he has the ordering procedures. The 12-78 date I used was because at the time I didn't know a change over date and Robbos ute above was the earliest confirmed date of a Sandman delivered from factory with N67 rims.

As for why Holden changed to N67 rims... who knows.... why did they drop the GTS guards on HX and HZ???

**jennie285** · 20-03-2011, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Absinth

As for why Holden changed to N67 rims... who knows.... why did they drop the GTS guards on HX and HZ???

I wish they didn't change GTS guards, I love em.....will do a HJ ute one day with them on

**stickthis** · 20-03-2011, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Absinth

why did they drop the GTS guards on HX and HZ???

Because they look better without them haha.

**HK1837** · 20-03-2011, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Absinth

Tony, go by what Byron says as he has the ordering procedures. The 12-78 date I used was because at the time I didn't know a change over date and Robbos ute above was the earliest confirmed date of a Sandman delivered from factory with N67 rims.

As for why Holden changed to N67 rims... who knows.... why did they drop the GTS guards on HX and HZ???

I think they changed the guards because they wanted to change the image of the Sandman away from a GTS ute (or van), and the GTS was probably also already touted for the chop by HX release..

Rims were probably just cost cutting.

**stickthis** · 20-03-2011, 07:29 PM

they where the new "in" thing with the release of the VB also I guess.

**HK1837** · 21-03-2011, 06:53 AM

It'll be simply a cost thing. I bet they were cheaper to manufacture in bulk for Gemini, UC, VB and HZ from one manufacturer than small amounts of N66 rims. No need for dress rims or metal centre caps or special nuts either.