Nice HQ Sandman - Car Sales 15 March 2018 - Monterey Green White Stripes

[Valencia]

107 recorded seals the deal really. It has to be at least a thousand.
Saying that you didn’t see them in the 70’s means nothing really. You can’t identity them now and you had less chance then without te info you have now.

Doesn't prove jack without the offical GMH numbers we will never know

[wbute]

Doesn't prove jack without the offical GMH numbers we will never know

It does actually prove a lot. It proved the 100 built is clearly wrong, unless by some miracle 100% survived and are all recorded. Not likely.
What would you suggest would be a possible survival percentage of a 44 year old car, that was extremely susceptible to rust, went through twenty five years of its life where it had no value, except to be wrecked to build other cars? I reckon 10% is pretty optimistic really.

[HQ Freek]

It does actually prove a lot. It proved the 100 built is clearly wrong, unless by some miracle 100% survived and are all recorded. Not likely.
What would you suggest would be a possible survival percentage of a 44 year old car, that was extremely susceptible to rust, went through twenty five years of its life where it had no value, except to be wrecked to build other cars? I reckon 10% is pretty optimistic really.

That was 107 probables (vans and Utes) so not 100% survival rate....
I like how people just make up stats like a 90% attrition rate or my old man worked at holden and I remember loads on the lot 44 years ago when I was a kid at one particular dealership and extrapolate a stat from that.
The Mysandman website and a lot of other publications say only 100 rumoured to be built so I’m sticking with that.
Of course I would because I have a vested interest. Guess we will never know.
Anyway, the van is no longer on carsales. I wonder if it sold and when it will pop up again. ��

[wbute]

That was 107 probables (vans and Utes) so not 100% survival rate....
I like how people just make up stats like a 90% attrition rate or my old man worked at holden and I remember loads on the lot 44 years ago when I was a kid at one particular dealership and extrapolate a stat from that.
The Mysandman website and a lot of other publications say only 100 rumoured to be built so I’m sticking with that.
Of course I would because I have a vested interest. Guess we will never know.
Anyway, the van is no longer on carsales. I wonder if it sold and when it will pop up again. ��

The mysandman website has always stated there was no record of numbers built, not probably 100. There is no doubt that a HQ Sandman is a rare car in 2018. No one is disputing that, and that will keep their value high.

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And the big killer of a car model is when the teenagers get hold of them....
Vans were THE teen choice of the 70's so were doomed to a high attrition rate. Couple that with the fact that when a new model comes out the old devalues fast and the customising scene was at it's peak, sending even more vans down the one way path to hell.
Cheap, used V8 vans (possibly Sandmans) fell into the hands of P platers and inexperienced drivers and were written off at a high rate...
I'd be shocked if 10% survived in any decent condition today.

I agree 100%.

[Big Rob]

And the big killer of a car model is when the teenagers get hold of them....
Vans were THE teen choice of the 70's so were doomed to a high attrition rate. Couple that with the fact that when a new model comes out the old devalues fast and the customising scene was at it's peak, sending even more vans down the one way path to hell.
Cheap, used V8 vans (possibly Sandmans) fell into the hands of P platers and inexperienced drivers and were written off at a high rate...
I'd be shocked if 10% survived in any decent condition today.

It does actually prove a lot. It proved the 100 built is clearly wrong, unless by some miracle 100% survived and are all recorded. Not likely.
What would you suggest would be a possible survival percentage of a 44 year old car, that was extremely susceptible to rust, went through twenty five years of its life where it had no value, except to be wrecked to build other cars? I reckon 10% is pretty optimistic really.