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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    N is the GMP&A replacement engine pre-fix. It doesn’t stand for anything.
    Which is derived from NASCO and that is where the "N" comes from. Holden changed it's parts division name from National Automotive Service Company to General Motors Parts & Accessories around 1972 (Mid HQ). Holden continued to use the "N" from NASCO as a prefix on Genuine Replacement Engines, Chassis and Bodies even when known as GM P&A.
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    19th December 1975 Suit HJ Late Dec 1975 to April 1976

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willo68 View Post
    If everything else is Sandman and chassis has been replaced how does this effect value.
    It no longer has its original identity so it’s not technically even a Sandman anymore. The chassis number is the cars identity.
    This old chestnut has come up a lot on here.
    It’s possible it was stolen and recovered as well. The original number may have been tampered with. Are you absolutely certain it’s no longer there? I have heard of some chassis with the original number still there and the police number as well.

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    New South Wales police numbers both engine and chassis typically start with "N" and end the number with "P".
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    19th December 1975 Suit HJ Late Dec 1975 to April 1976

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post
    Which is derived from NASCO and that is where the "N" comes from. Holden changed it's parts division name from National Automotive Service Company to General Motors Parts & Accessories around 1972 (Mid HQ). Holden continued to use the "N" from NASCO as a prefix on Genuine Replacement Engines, Chassis and Bodies even when known as GM P&A.
    I thought chassis were issued blank with no number?
    I have no idea if the N stood for Nasco. Seems a long shot but it’s possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    I thought chassis were issued blank with no number?
    I have no idea if the N stood for Nasco. Seems a long shot but it’s possible.
    Most the time the chassis were not stamped but are still issued with a NASCO number.
    Bodies were supplied with NASCO stamped on a new compliance plate but were typically swapped for the original.

    100% the "N" prefix stands for NASCO. This is a very well known fact.
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    19th December 1975 Suit HJ Late Dec 1975 to April 1976

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    Your correct. Memories are very unreliable, I could have sworn that tag had GMP&A on it. NASCO it is though.
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    Yes, was me who pointed that out for you when you posted that tag.
    Here is another:

    nasco_tag.jpg

    Just as the "N" was for NASCO on engine numbers
    As you mentioned in this thread.
    http://www.mysandman.com.au/forums/s...refix-eBay-S-A
    Last edited by Innuendo; 08-09-2018 at 10:46 PM.
    Selling HJ 253 Engine
    Engine Number QR718*** | 19M5 Clock Casting at 6 O'Clock
    19th December 1975 Suit HJ Late Dec 1975 to April 1976

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    I've never seen the nasco compliance plates until you put that one up ...and never seen the nr on the engine number till the one I have in my hz .....

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    You can see why "if" you had the original body tag you would swap it over when your new body arrived.
    Missing all the other details and confusing to authorities.

    The chassis in question could be a NASCO replacement. What with the number on the passenger side and the number starting NREP.
    This would leave room back on the drivers side for the original chassis number to be re-stamped and the opposite proving a replacement.
    All possible. Still hurts it's resale value as a Sandman though unless you have all the paper work as proof and even then...
    Last edited by Innuendo; 09-09-2018 at 02:30 PM.
    Selling HJ 253 Engine
    Engine Number QR718*** | 19M5 Clock Casting at 6 O'Clock
    19th December 1975 Suit HJ Late Dec 1975 to April 1976

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    Yes it definitely would be not as desirable if the chassis did match the compliance plates .. but how bout the motor beginning with nr instead of qr ....

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