hj308's HZ Sandman Build

**HK1837** · 29-09-2010, 07:23 PM

No. XU4 is just a code for a late HJ-HZ ute or van with passenger vehicle tyres hence the lowered GVW of 1950kg. No other differences whatsoever. Just think of the difference between an XU3 and XX7 from late HJ onwards - answer: the tyres. And that is the difference between a normal ute/van and an XU4.

**wbute** · 29-09-2010, 07:32 PM

I have a query on XU4's. It would make a lot more sense if they had the lighter spring pack more so than the sedan tyres only. I would have thought if you had to upate the load carrying capacity from an XU4 they would have said you also had to fit the 6 leaf springs. Just a thought.Not much point having heavy duty tyres if the thing is dragging its arse on the ground with nice straight side sidewalls on the tyres.

**HK1837** · 29-09-2010, 07:44 PM

There was no uprate from XU4. Only a downgrade from normal. Springs are the same. Reduction in GVW is wholly because of the tyres. Exactly the same today, where you have to fit load rated tyres to load carrying vehicles.

**stickthis** · 29-09-2010, 07:47 PM

Mate im keen to know if your van has a tyre placard on it?

**wbute** · 29-09-2010, 08:13 PM

Yeah I know you wouldnt have been able to option up from xu4. just curious about if the springs came into the mix with load ratings.

**hj308** · 29-09-2010, 09:10 PM

NO the guy said it doesnt have a tyre placard on the glovebox lid.

**stickthis** · 29-09-2010, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by hj308

NO the guy said it doesnt have a tyre placard on the glovebox lid.

Thats a shame as I have never seen a XU4 placard. (i collect tyre placards)

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Originally Posted by Absinth

I don't agree with you there Byron.

Standard Van, Ute and One Tonner had six leaf rear springs.... XX7 and XU4 had four leaf rear springs. Shock absorbers were the same until HZ where regular and heavy duty rear are listed for 60,70 and 80.

Just changing the tyres would do little to improve ride comfort....

But they would handle better due to the softer tyres.

**hj308** · 29-09-2010, 10:28 PM

Hey I just checked the photos of the compliance plate the guy send me and it is HZWM70 not HZWN70 , he is going to send me the skinny tag id photo tomorrow does this mean it could now possibily be a sandy instead of a K/wood

**Blocker** · 29-09-2010, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by hj308

Hey I just checked the photos of the compliance plate the guy send me and it is HZWM70 not HZWN70 , he is going to send me the skinny tag id photo tomorrow does this mean it could now possibily be a sandy instead of a K/wood

It is NOT a Kingswood if it is M70. As detailed in our front page;
http://mysandman.com.au/ident.html

M = Commercial vehicle
N = Kingswood

Sandmans were "made" from commercial vehicles (M) but had derated load capacity due to having standard tyres and not commercial tyres.
However this is not the only thing that makes a vehicle a Sandman, there are other factors as well, detailed in the link above.

**Absinth** · 29-09-2010, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by HK1837

There was no uprate from XU4. Only a downgrade from normal. Springs are the same. Reduction in GVW is wholly because of the tyres. Exactly the same today, where you have to fit load rated tyres to load carrying vehicles.

I don't agree with you there Byron.

Standard Van, Ute and One Tonner had six leaf rear springs.... XX7 and XU4 had four leaf rear springs. Shock absorbers were the same until HZ where regular and heavy duty rear are listed for 60,70 and 80.

Just changing the tyres would do little to improve ride comfort....