HQ grille badge

[Innuendo]

It's a '71-'72 HQ Grill Badge
Why do you think it's anything else?

[Len1955]

All the one's I have seen have blue and red in them.

[Innuendo]

All the one's I have seen have blue and red in them.

That's the '73-'74 versions and "all" the reproductions.
If you look at an aged one the colours have all faded out anyway.

[Len1955]

OK I didn't know there was two version's
Thanks for that you learn something new every day.

[Dr Terry]

That's the '73-'74 versions and "all" the reproductions.
If you look at an aged one the colours have all faded out anyway.

I disagree. I remember the '71 release well & the HQ grille badge was always multi coloured.

Also there is only one part no. from '71 to '74, no change. GM-H always changed part numbers no matter how small the change in production.

I think it's a bit like the FB/EK horn buttons, where they where supplied by 2 (or more) outside suppliers. They started out all the same colour, but due to different production methods & slightly different plastic compounds, they have aged differently. Now 50 years later the badges from supplier A, looks different to the ones from supplier B.

Dr Terry

[Len1955]

HI Dr Terry I know what your saying but it doesn't look faded, I think it was all ways all black.
Len

[Innuendo]

I disagree. I remember the '71 release well & the HQ grille badge was always multi coloured.

Also there is only one part no. from '71 to '74, no change. GM-H always changed part numbers no matter how small the change in production.

I think it's a bit like the FB/EK horn buttons, where they where supplied by 2 (or more) outside suppliers. They started out all the same colour, but due to different production methods & slightly different plastic compounds, they have aged differently. Now 50 years later the badges from supplier A, looks different to the ones from supplier B.

Dr Terry

I have always known them as early's and late. I don't know the exact dates and agree likely different suppliers to Holden (and same part numbers) but one was always black. It is not faded.
Ask Snape he like me has wrecked 100's or 1000's of HQ over the years.

[Dr Terry]

I have always known them as early's and late. I don't know the exact dates and agree likely different suppliers to Holden (and same part numbers) but one was always black. It is not faded.
Ask Snape he like me has wrecked 100's or 1000's of HQ over the years.

Sorry I don't agree. I worked on 100s of these cars when they were brand new, not a few years old & they were always multi-coloured.

I also remember vividly when the HJ was released with its new no colour badge which was the first one with the new (long tailed) Lion. It was a noticeable change.

As I said earlier these things aged quickly & it didn't take long for the red / blue to disappear. I reckon some would have been replaced under warranty due to the early fading. Maybe the later version had better quality pigments.

There would be no logical reason for GM-H to go from the red/blue version, which they've had since EH & Torana to black only & then back the red/blue for the later HQ.

Dr Terry