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    HJ Ute ID

    Hi guys, new to the forum and if a purchase comes off shortly, I will hopefully be a regular here. looking to buy a ute, struggling with a few items on the ID tags, but it may be a Sandman Ute. I don't know much about cars but i like the older ones. I think it is Casino Blue, but there are other numbers before the paint code, so I can't be positive. I know the tags are 308 eng, manual etc.
    I just wanted to get a list of items clarified via the numbers. I will put up the tags and any help would be appreciated. I had a read through a lot of the previous posts but still not 100% sure what I am looking at here.

    I only have some pics of the car, it is in with several other cars and I have set a time to go and see them soon in person. I would really like to be prepared when I have it in front of me. I am not used to forums so hopefully the photos attach ok. Thanks for any assistance.

    Tag 2 Sandman.jpg

    Tag 1 Sandman.jpg

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    Pretty sure thats a Sandman

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    HJ is very hard to identify. Nice options though. The only way to know is to contact HHS.

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    No worries. Thanks for getting in touch

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    I think GVW 1860kg is 6cylinder?

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    N = Kingswood 80 = Ute
    1860kg GVW = XX7 V8 Sandman Ute (with A/C?) never can remember the 1860kg is plain XX7 in a Ute or XX7 Ute with A/C. Either way the 1860kg GMW points to Sandman.
    568 = Paint type Non Metallic 17297 = Casino Blue (Metallic paint would have been a better indication of Sandman but it was up to the customer).
    1904 = Casino Blue 60V = Beige Chamois
    Inside Tray should be body colour I.E: Casino Blue (but would be true of any HJ Kingswood Ute)
    L31 = 308 V8 M21= 4 Speed Manual GV4 = Salisbury 3.36:1 Diff Ratio

    Look for the Sandman options. Blackouts, Black door handles, Spare wheel winch cup, All the GTS gear etc.

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    Last edited by Innuendo; 18-01-2021 at 12:17 AM. Reason: Corrected diff ratio
    Selling HJ 253 Engine
    Engine Number QR718*** | 19M5 Clock Casting at 6 O'Clock
    19th December 1975 Suit HJ Late Dec 1975 to April 1976

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    Not black handles on hj. Casino blue available across the Holden range (I believe never as a metallic). You don't see it often. Sandman or not a very desirable ute. There is a thread in the HJ Sandman showroom section by a member Cafiem who did up a casino blue ute, looks tops

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    Being a Kingswood Ute check if there are holes in the B pillar or at the rear near the tail light for the Kingswood bump strips. Fairly sure this was a delete for HJ Kingswood Sandman Ute(meaning they are a Kingswood without the holes so different to normal Kingswood).
    This is why the Kingswood Sandman was dropped in HX/Z as they went to the fused pins down the quarter,doors and front guard and you couldn’t put the stickers on, but HJ only had the two screw holes.
    I stand to be corrected on this in HJ but I am sure I remember Byron mentioned this years ago.
    Sandaro your dad’s has the strips but are they stick on?
    Last edited by wbute; 18-01-2021 at 10:57 AM.

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    Yeah stick on after delivery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandaro View Post
    Not black handles on hj. Casino blue available across the Holden range (I believe never as a metallic). You don't see it often. Sandman or not a very desirable ute. There is a thread in the HJ Sandman showroom section by a member Cafiem who did up a casino blue ute, looks tops
    Yes, my mistake on the black door handles (brain slip into neutral). As for the metallic I was pointing out that the 568 = Paint type Non Metallic. (though metallic paint would have been a pointer to being a Sandman in any colour) was never saying Casino blue was offered in metallic.
    Selling HJ 253 Engine
    Engine Number QR718*** | 19M5 Clock Casting at 6 O'Clock
    19th December 1975 Suit HJ Late Dec 1975 to April 1976

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