White HJ Sandman decals

[agr071]

yes they are factory..its in the parts books and i even have some nos white ones here...2 types available..black and white...obviously black is no good on black and same for white on white..

You never told me that.
I'll be after white ones for my HJ.

[stickthis]

We do both the white and black ones.

BUT a BIG BUT. I have seen another style. Its just of the small logo. I have seen and have remakes of the HQ/HJ logo as a white with black outline.

hmmmm somthing else to confuse you for a little while Byron. :Tongue:

[HK1837]

Not too concerned with stripes. There'll be a chapter on them, but only the facts as published in GMH documentation, option codes, what goes with which colour etc. Although the stripes are an integral part of the Sandman package, they have little historical or identifying significance as none of them were factory fitted. And i'll bet there were plenty of "stuff-ups" by the fitting dealers too, like a customer not liking the suggested stripes so the dealer swapping for another colour. Or stripes stuck on non-Sandmans.

[ozbox]

You never told me that.
I'll be after white ones for my HJ.

you probably never asked...dont ask where it is ...cant be told where to go...:knockout:

[Rolla]

I'm curious. If the stripes we're never factory fitted, then when where they fitted and who by? I was also under the impression that the decal was fitted prior to leaving the factory.

[ozbox]

they were fitted by the selling dealers pre delivery section generally...i worked in a few ford and holden dealerships in the later 70s and early 80s doing predelivery,detailing and spare parts..things like ford sundowners and escorts with stripes etc were the same,dealer fitted stripes..
to add to this,customers quite commonly wanted all the fruit so to speak but didnt want the attention of stripes so a lot of these types of vans did not get there stripes put on at all...

[HK1837]

All stripes and logos on HQ and HJ were dealer fitted (this is well documented - see attached cut and paste from HQ POA, HJ is the same).

However HX and HZ are not so clear. In fact it is quite adamant on the colour/trim chart that the stripe combo required must be specified or DL7 optioned. However I have reports from people who tried to buy HX and HZ Sandmans new, that they could have a DL7 straight away or had to wait a while (like a week or two) for one with stripes. This either means that the dealers had to get the stripes fitted or thee were a lot of DL7's around (this makes no sense as a dealer could easily have got a DL7 and fitted the stripes himself?).

[adam perth]

Deaville blue comes up alot for what colour stripes did it have.
some say black, some say white.

[wbute]

DL7 would have been easier to sell towards the end? They must have been selling less and less of the striped ones towards the end or they would not have dropped them in WB. I bet most sandmans being restored were DL7 as dealers could have had them as floor stock and being fully loaded they would have been easy to sell. My brother looked at a new HZ ute with GTS dash 5 litre and bucket seats but bought a XD Falcon ute instead with a 6 cylinder because of the fuel crisis (what a mistake, he would still have had it now). I bet it was a DL7 and there was no way he is the sort of person to buy a car that stands out too much! If it was a DL7 sandman they sure never told him.
I reckon that there would have been more DL7 than striped Sandmans in HX and HZ. What was the difference in price between a DL7 to a Kingswood with all the same options? If they were cheaper it would have made sense to have been flogging them instead of the Kingswood ute. Plus it would have been way easier to tick the DL7 sandman van box than go through all the optioning up of a standard van. If the salesman was lazy then they would not have even told the customer that hated sandmans that they had just bought one.

[stickthis]

To help confuse everyone. This one had white stripes. It was on a 100% original HJ Sadnman. Note the black in the logo.........