Wanted HQ-Z Sandman

[ozbox]

I don't know why someone would remove a GTS dash and put a standard one in but I have seen weirder things.

ozbox: It's more than what I wanted to spend

i would not be pondering the mystery of a dash in a van...:errf:

when i bought my hq sandman in 2000 it was a rolling bare shell with 2 doors and 2 gaurds and a set of tags that had never been tampered with..it had been sitting in a lean to out west around orange somewhere...it was absolutely stripped bare except for its original gaurds and doors..no glass no wiring no fuel tank no frigin nothing..
everyone thought i was mad for paying 2k for it,which in the year 2000 it was worth nothing as vans werent exciting..
i have spent 10 years peicing this van together including its date coded recoed 308 and the hardest to obtain peices of new old stock in australia as i have had to battle with gts owners to obtain unobtanium..not cheap to do..pictures are not what you need if you are serious about buying the rarest of all sandmans ever built...
picture collectors ask for pics and buyers get on the phone and speak about things before asking for pics.

[72kingswood]

i would not be pondering the mystery of a dash in a van...:errf:

when i bought my hq sandman in 2000 it was a rolling bare shell with 2 doors and 2 gaurds and a set of tags that had never been tampered with..it had been sitting in a lean to out west around orange somewhere...it was absolutely stripped bare except for its original gaurds and doors..no glass no wiring no fuel tank no frigin nothing..
everyone thought i was mad for paying 2k for it,which in the year 2000 it was worth nothing as vans werent exciting..
i have spent 10 years peicing this van together including its date coded recoed 308 and the hardest to obtain peices of new old stock in australia as i have had to battle with gts owners to obtain unobtanium..not cheap to do..pictures are not what you need if you are serious about buying the rarest of all sandmans ever built...
picture collectors ask for pics and buyers get on the phone and speak about things before asking for pics.

Fair enough. I'm not ready to buy for about a month so I just wanted a rough idea of its condition before I pestered you for too many details.

[HK1837]

I would love to have Greg's XX7 if it was a ute! A 308 4spd HQ XX7 in yellow is a pretty desirable thing, and vans seem to be more valuable than utes although the utes are heaps rarer today. I don't think there would be a more valuable combination out there. Rarest would probably be a HQ Belmont XX7 ute in 173 auto, but who the hell would want that?!
In all honesty, if you paid $10k for a complete but some rust Sandman that needed a full resto. Then you looked at Greg's for $20k. I betcha that upon completing the resto, you'd spend the $10k or more extra in bodywork on the cheaper one. With Greg's you get straight panels and a near rust free straight body.

[ozbox]

and all the unobtanium.....:lol:

[HK1837]

That he could use good 2nd hand stuff and sell the NOS stuff off to GTS freaks!

[adam perth]

[picture collectors ask for pics and buyers get on the phone and speak about things before asking for pics.[/QUOTE]

so True!!

i think you will have to spend around $12K for HJ-X and around $15 K for HQ or HZ
to find decent matching numbers suit resto...

[HK1837]

Adam is about right, although I'd put HQ and HJ as the more expensive and HX and HZ as the cheaper options (especially HX). All worth having though.

[72kingswood]

My budget isn't a fixed amount and the car I end up buying may or may not be numbers matching. I am just putting my feelers out there to see what is available for this sort of money.

[1BadVan]

Adam is about right, although I'd put HQ and HJ as the more expensive and HX and HZ as the cheaper options (especially HX). All worth having though.

Interesting I would have put the HQ and HZ as the most expensive. But as you said all worth having.

Cheers Dave

[HK1837]

My thinking is HQ because it is the rarest, and HJ for many reasons:

Still had GTS guards;
Nicest single headlight front;
Pre emissions engines expecially 1974 examples with no canister;
No ugly coloured stripes;
All had GTS rims.

HZ has it's benefits in RTS and chin spoiler though, but only had GTS rims for half of the run and got an uglier steering wheel. All in the eye of the beholder I suppose!

I think you'll find in the end that the Sandmans will follow the values of their GTS counterparts, with HQ being the most sought after by far, followed by HJ, then HZ and then the ugly duckling (but good value) HX. At least the HX Sandman didn't get the awful side treatment like HX GTS and LX SLR5000.