I must admit they are different they arent full length and they are one piece as opposed to the two small ones? yeah not sure wont rush in I'll see if they grow on me. Yeah Jez I was lucky enough to get in first, after the disappointment of missing out on the red van at Dubbo I was relentless in checking ebay, carsales trading post etc every night and I reckon I came across this one within minutes of it being posted. After intially telling me he would let me have first offer and then told me he had a guy coming to look (young guy) and fortunately he didnt buy it. Thats when Ian offered to go around and look on my behalf, He did actual tell Ian he would take $3500 but when I offered it to him that evening he declined saying he had another guy coming the following morning to look at it so for the sake of $500 I gave him the full asking price. I still think the price was fair and if I spent around $20,000 will hopefully have a great looking van.