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    Quote Originally Posted by Glacier 73 View Post
    You would think a buckskin stalk would look odd on a black steering column
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    I wouldn't get too wound up what colour you make it Gene. They have always been a high fail rate item (even from new) and at one stage in the mid 80's Bosch decided they were only going to make the earlier type replacement one (the Commodore one is different) in black only. So many cars/utes/vans etc will have a black one on a coloured steering column because of this reason (I couldn't ever begin to count how many I replaced while working at the Holden dealership I was at back then), that was until another aftermarket manufacturer took up making them in the range of colours again.

    Usually column colour, but like you I have provision for/don't mind both colours. My HJ was never delivered with a combo switch (too early), however I have changed the ignition pot to a HX one and with it the combo switch as I was never in love with the dipper switch being on the floor in the early models and wanted it on the stalk. My colomn is black in a Gazelle interior, either colour combo switch works with the interior but black does look better.

    Did you notice this one recently? Now not sure but that one looks to have had a brown column to me... The gear selector certainly was brown at one stage.

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    You know what ive got the brand new one in black and imho it will look better all black column with a matching stalk
    thanks for your input guys
    cheers gene.

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    The black column fits in with the black dash facia anyway. Not like it looks wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glacier 73 View Post
    Ok well i got a NOS bosch indicator stalk in black

    sorry for all the questions if im going to do a resto i want to do it right all the way
    thanks for the info guys
    If you want to do it right then the colour of the column and stalk is important.

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    All this talk on correct trim colours for 77 Sandman has got me thinking about mine; my '77 Sandman ute has 63V (buckskin trimcode) and has the black GTS wheel/horn pad with lion logo in the middle, black indicator stalk and black steering column shroud cover. The dash pad and glove box are both what I'd describe as tan in colour, somewhat darker than buckskin, that's for sure and pretty much the same colour as in Taily's photo a few posts above. The glovebox appears to be original and has the correct GM part number for 10cwt). Would 63V trimcode normally have the slightly darker crash pad and glovebox with the lighter-coloured seats, door trims, centre console etc, or has mine been changed at some stage?

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    I think I have a black one somewhere.

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    Hi Kyuss, I ordered my Sandman from new in '77 with the Buckskin interior but the crash pad and glove box was the tan. The seats, headlining, sunvisors and centre console was Buckskin. Steering column, Steering Wheel and the combination stalk were all black so I would say yours has not been changed. What colour is your ute, my van is Persian Sand Mk 2 (Bronze/Brown with DY3 stripes). Cheers!
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    G'day HZSanFan, mine's meant to be atlantis blue with HZ DY4 stripes (white, mid blue, dark blue). It's 11/77 build with L32, M20. Making slow progress with some rust repairs etc but it'll get there. Glad to hear about the dash pad n glove box as mine look like they've been there for a looong time! Always great to hear about cars that people have complete history of. Unfortunately I was barely up to walking back in 77! Just remebered one more question - what colour is the metal section in front of your dash pad painted? Mine is the tan colour, similar to the dash pad so I don't think I need to paint it? Thanks in advance, Andy

    Quote Originally Posted by HZSanFan View Post
    Hi Kyuss, I ordered my Sandman from new in '77 with the Buckskin interior but the crash pad and glove box was the tan. The seats, headlining, sunvisors and centre console was Buckskin. Steering column, Steering Wheel and the combination stalk were all black so I would say yours has not been changed. What colour is your ute, my van is Persian Sand Mk 2 (Bronze/Brown with DY3 stripes). Cheers!
    Last edited by Kyuss; 21-03-2014 at 05:36 PM. Reason: added a question

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    Quote Originally Posted by HZSanFan View Post
    Hi Kyuss, I ordered my Sandman from new in '77 with the Buckskin interior but the crash pad and glove box was the tan. The seats, headlining, sunvisors and centre console was Buckskin. Steering column, Steering Wheel and the combination stalk were all black so I would say yours has not been changed. What colour is your ute, my van is Persian Sand Mk 2 (Bronze/Brown with DY3 stripes). Cheers!
    This is what mine is suppose to be 99% sure as it is valencia orange with a mix of buckskin and tan and black trim
    not quite sure about the crash pad and glove box if they are suppose to be tan or black any way of finding out
    by the way great info HZ SanFan logged in my diary cheers

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    The trim code for black crash pad would be 18V

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