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    F doesn't mean 1976, it means 9/75 to 8/76. GVW will be 2200kg. It could go either way, I have plenty of V8 auto HJ Kingswood utes recorded, lots are Sandmans and lots aren't. Absinth yellow was a common colour in HJ utes.

    The only chances you have to identify outside of guessing on remaining paint evidence are:
    1. If you can figure out either way if it was column shift or console shift, column is Kingswood, console in Kingswood XX7.
    2. Look for evidence of approx. 8mm diameter or so holes through the front of the guards, both ends of the doors and in the back of the quarters for screws to hold the side strips on, the only way for these to be deleted was with the XX7 special vehicle package. Tailgate ends should be the same, but like the doors and guards it is hard to prove if the unboltables are original.

    Picking the body as original to the tags will be a bit easier with this one too, as it was a TH400 which I've rarely ever seen anyone replicate a factory installation properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK1837 View Post
    F doesn't mean 1976, it means 9/75 to 8/76. GVW will be 2200kg. It could go either way, I have plenty of V8 auto HJ Kingswood utes recorded, lots are Sandmans and lots aren't. Absinth yellow was a common colour in HJ utes.

    The only chances you have to identify outside of guessing on remaining paint evidence are:
    1. If you can figure out either way if it was column shift or console shift, column is Kingswood, console in Kingswood XX7.
    2. Look for evidence of approx. 8mm diameter or so holes through the front of the guards, both ends of the doors and in the back of the quarters for screws to hold the side strips on, the only way for these to be deleted was with the XX7 special vehicle package. Tailgate ends should be the same, but like the doors and guards it is hard to prove if the unboltables are original.

    Picking the body as original to the tags will be a bit easier with this one too, as it was a TH400 which I've rarely ever seen anyone replicate a factory installation properly.
    It would have to be console wouldn't it? I haven't heard of a TH400 column shift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick61 View Post
    It would have to be console wouldn't it? I haven't heard of a TH400 column shift.
    Column shift TH400 was quite commonplace, my B06 HZ One-Tonner has it & I believe all bench seat HJ/HX/HZ Statesman DeVilles had it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick61 View Post
    It would have to be console wouldn't it? I haven't heard of a TH400 column shift.
    As Dr Terry says it was common, especially in HJ. Column shift TH400 was actually standard fitment in most applications where you could option it, was only standard as console shift in a few applications which if I remember correctly were:

    Caprice
    LE
    GTS
    Sandman

    Some like LE and Caprice it was the standard box, others it came either with the engine (eg 350 in HQ Statesman or 308 in HJ-HZ Premier/LS) or came if auto was specced with 308.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK1837 View Post
    F doesn't mean 1976, it means 9/75 to 8/76. GVW will be 2200kg. It could go either way, I have plenty of V8 auto HJ Kingswood utes recorded, lots are Sandmans and lots aren't. Absinth yellow was a common colour in HJ utes.

    The only chances you have to identify outside of guessing on remaining paint evidence are:
    1. If you can figure out either way if it was column shift or console shift, column is Kingswood, console in Kingswood XX7.
    2. Look for evidence of approx. 8mm diameter or so holes through the front of the guards, both ends of the doors and in the back of the quarters for screws to hold the side strips on, the only way for these to be deleted was with the XX7 special vehicle package. Tailgate ends should be the same, but like the doors and guards it is hard to prove if the unboltables are original.

    Picking the body as original to the tags will be a bit easier with this one too, as it was a TH400 which I've rarely ever seen anyone replicate a factory installation properly.
    Hey HK1837 checked the lic papers gvw is 2200kgs. I will check the body molding holes tonight.

    It has been changed from std if it is a sandman at all. It now has a t350 and 9" and a twin headlight front so it is a bit of a bitsa.

    Thankyou

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