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    According to Byron they should have the GTS speedo.... however a lot of others believe the standard HQ speedo is correct.... the same argument is had for HQ SS...
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    Yea just what I heard with the 220. I am no expert just what I was told but I could be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post
    I think that is GTS only from what I can figure. Mine has a 200kph and most of the others I've seen that I rate also have the same.
    It's up for debate, but I can't see why a Ute or Panel Van in 1974 would get a 220kph speedo. I certainly wouldn't discount something from being a Sandman based on the speedo.
    Worth checking a 1974 HQ Parts book for info.
    all three of my hq sandy utes have got 220kmh speedos

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    Should have a 220kph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinth View Post
    According to Byron they should have the GTS speedo.... however a lot of others believe the standard HQ speedo is correct.... the same argument is had for HQ SS...
    HQ SS would have a MPH speedo, KPH was 1974. I guess the argument is over 120 and 140MPH versions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsandman View Post
    all three of my hq sandy utes have got 220kmh speedos
    Quote Originally Posted by mauser View Post
    Should have a 220kph.

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    I wonder if it has to do with whether you have Flexdrive or VDO speedo from factory?
    There is a lot of genuine HQ Sandman's out there with 200KPH speedos.

    What brand do you have?

    Similar issues go on with EJ/EH speedo's between AC and VDO variants.
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    Previous opinions on speedos including from Byron and Inners

    http://www.mysandman.com.au/forums/s...sandman+speedo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandaro View Post
    Previous opinions on speedos including from Byron and Inners

    http://www.mysandman.com.au/forums/s...sandman+speedo
    I was fully down with the 220kph speedo for Sandman, because like Byron I believed HQ Sandman's got all the GTS options.
    Today I'm not so sure. While Byron's document says what it "should" have it, doesn't make it so.

    I read this thread: http://www.mysandman.com.au/forums/s...ndman-Speedo-s

    Didn't come away convinced. Absinth at least mentions the different brands and HQSS Paul was really being thorough. Too many times people state that their Sandman came with a 200kph speedo.
    All the images I find mainly looked to be prostituted dashboards with bits missing or odd custom paint colours. The yellow HQ Sandman Ozbox sold dashboard is an abomination of old and new parts and doesn't fill me with any confidence. Buickzz and Bryan's barbarous HQ Sandmans both have 200kph speedos along with numerous other images I have collected over the years of "HQ Sandman's" for sale. Both nice clean examples to basket cases.

    So many "not in the build or no longer in the build" confirmed original Sandman's I look at have the 200kph speedo fitted. Why? it's easy enough to purchase a 220kph speedo.

    Anyway, I'm not convinced one way or the other now. I'm 100% sure some came with 220kph speedo's but I'm not convinced they all did...

    That said, my Owners Manual dated April '74 that has been with my Sandman from new shows the 220kph speedo in illustration. Yet the Sandman it's from has a 200kph speedo fitted.

    Could the speedo have been replaced - yep! But it could have been there from the start also.
    The illustration also shows a push button radio and I know that wasn't always the case with 3 or more radio options. Based on the Owners Manual it would mean "all '74" HQ's Monaro LS/GTS/Sandman or even a Belmont with option would have got the 220klm speedo and I 100% know that isn't true.
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    It’s all irrelevant anyway. A HQ would have wallowed off the road before it hit 150 anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason.ruff View Post
    That would be my ultimate combo. Damn it just bought the ute !!!
    Mine too Jason. Have wanted an Orchid HQ van since I started playing with these things many years ago - it's very cool to see one listed for sale, kinda gives me hope that I still may stumble upon one one day.

    In saying that, this happened to me recently - Over Christmas I drove down to Gympie to pick a tonner up for a mate and tow it home. I had not seen the ute but was hell excited about a road trip with a good mate. Long story short - the tonner had a genuine HQ GTS front on it. My mate hated it from the moment he saw it and before we got out of Gympie town limits I'd bought it for a carton. It was rust free, straight as with Prem beak. Anyway, upon inspection once I got it home and dismantled we found it to have remnants of factory Orchid paint up under the insides of the rear of the guards and along its inner edges!!!!!!

    Probably sounds dumb to many but for me it was a pretty cool find. They seemed to have the factory holes for the GTS and Munro badges so not from this van, but just thought I would share anyway.

    Cheers

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    There is also an Orchid van advertised on The Sandman Facebook page.

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