Whats this HJ please.

[Dago]

Vague or obscure is good and it has its merits by generating traffic etc to the forums, but I want to remove the incorrect info and/or re-word it to be open for discussion.
Having wrong info in my mind probably steers some people away if they know it is wrong. Does that make sense?

I think it needs to be accurate. Otherwise this site doesn't need to exist. It's all about the Sandman, and hiding the details or not glorifying it by letting everyone share your knowlege seems to defeat the purpose.

[mauser]

I think it needs to be accurate. Otherwise this site doesn't need to exist. It's all about the Sandman, and hiding the details or not glorifying it by letting everyone share your knowlege seems to defeat the purpose.

I think what Byron is eluding to is to provide information for enthusiasts for identification or verification but not to provide a shopping list to make a lazy charlatans life easier. That doesn't help anybody.


Mauser

[RodneyHZ253]

Kruiz I think the whole discussion is relevant to the information you posted .sometimes it is not that easy to determine the authenticity of a sandman . Holden didn't make it very easy the way they tagged and made vehicles .brisbane built sandman are the only ones that are easy to identiy.as well as the plate info which probably points to a sandman ute gts components tyre placards etc would reinforce the identify .but from the information you have supplied like stick this said it looks like a kings wood sandman . Most of sandman where made from base model Belmonts so the kings wood sandman's adds confusion to the identification espically hj's which appears to be mixture of Belmont and kingswood depending on the manufacture date .

[KRUIZ]

i thank you people for all your help and i am just like everyone else who owns a sandman and want to no if there is any thing special or rare about my ute every thing you people say to look for is there so i am happy to say to the best of my knowledge its a sandman. you are welcome to use my info for your data base but i would like to know if you knew about it before i told you.

[RodneyHZ253]

Blocker you will really have your work cut out for you working with footage from that guy, trying to make something out off it .the van would come up all right but the main actor would be relying on your ability to produce a good result
I also was not trying to be critical of our (your) site just pointing out to kuize that it difficult to come up with the answer some time.

[wbute]

Blocker you will really have your work cut out for you working with footage from that guy, trying to make something out off it .the van would come up all right but the main actor would be relying on your ability to produce a good result
I also was not trying to be critical of our (your) site just pointing out to kuize that it difficult to come up with the answer some time.

I cant wait to see the new vid Rod!!!!!

[playwme]

Blocker you will really have your work cut out for you working with footage from that guy, trying to make something out off it .the van would come up all right but the main actor would be relying on your ability to produce a good result

I hear that the main actor has some Sandman Groupie eye candy to distract the viewers and make sure they watch the whole movie.

[jennie285]

Most of sandman where made from base model Belmonts so the kings wood sandman's adds confusion to the identification espically hj's which appears to be mixture of Belmont and kingswood depending on the manufacture date .

Most kingswoods are generally not Sandmans...is why your HJ is confusing

[Blocker]

Like Rodney said, the early HJ ute Sandman can be confusing because of the Kingswood factor. I still don't have my head around it, and probably need to map it out on a napkin to understand it.

[KRUIZ]

Does the kingswood problem make it rare or just confusing