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    not that i can speak from experience but mook has a few good points. it is going to cost an absolute bomb to do it right!

    first make up your mind if your going to be comfortable with the fact that youve got a kinga van that owes you $15,000 to $20,000 once your done. if not, i suggest you dont even start because if you get half way through and give up its going to be worth less than what it is now.

    kinda a pessamistic view but its a bit of a reality check.

    best of luck and we just love photos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vombil View Post
    not that i can speak from experience but mook has a few good points. it is going to cost an absolute bomb to do it right!

    first make up your mind if your going to be comfortable with the fact that youve got a kinga van that owes you $15,000 to $20,000 once your done. if not, i suggest you dont even start because if you get half way through and give up its going to be worth less than what it is now.

    kinda a pessamistic view but its a bit of a reality check.

    best of luck and we just love photos
    Chassis off resto is a crazy amount of work, not to equal bloody hard work especially if you have not done it before.

    If you can do a rolling restoration it would be a more bearable process, I'm very lucky that i have a very experienced Holden man (Matt) helping me.

    Also take into consideration if you plan moving anytime soon. It is pain in the bum especially when your van is in bits.

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    Once you've calculated how much it's going to cost you, double it. If that doesn't scare you then continue with the resto.

    Also, being in Dubbo, if you see parts in real good nick for a van, just buy them. If you stop to think about it chances are Jennie and Rodney will have snuck in and bought them while you weren't looking.:shifty:

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    Quote Originally Posted by playwme View Post
    Once you've calculated how much it's going to cost you, double it. If that doesn't scare you then continue with the resto.

    Also, being in Dubbo, if you see parts in real good nick for a van, just buy them. If you stop to think about it chances are Jennie and Rodney will have snuck in and bought them while you weren't looking.:shifty:
    Yeahino
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    HZ Madeira Red Windowless sandman now Sold to Bigrob
    HX Mandarin Red Sandman Ute finished, and club registered
    1979 HZ malachite windowless van with 308 5spd, all chromed up and shiny finished and named "The Player"
    Married to RodneyHZ253

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    You have some pretty good advice in the above comments if you are ever in parkes I would be happy to show my results and works in progress and discuss the long and winding road to the end result
    We started hear 1year ago

    And now 1year later

    There is a lot of photos of the rebuilt of this van can post a link if you require but it under( back from the soda blasters) and (blackouts)

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    its good to see you are asking questions before you start and all the addvice you have and will recieve is great just remember as people are telling you to do a body of resto and depending on the condition before you start if you are paying people to do paint and panel and mechanical and the interior and want to do it to show room condition do not expect any change out of 40k and remember that a car takes up twice as much area when it is pulled to pieces.good luck and i hope you keep your dream alive

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    in order that i recommend nowaday when someone enters our shop;

    1. pick up phone
    2. arrange appointment with bank
    3. see how much you can get as in finance if you are not cashed up
    4. scour all forums and put feelers out
    5. find something done, that others have completed and done an amazing job on, even if it is way above your budget that you thought you were going to spend on your own rebuild(it soon blows out)
    6. give them the cash
    7. grab a bargain
    8. turn key
    9. enjoy immediately and if it bothers you to what others say as in "ohh thats ozbox's old van(sorry for using you as an example)you bought", simply make some subtle changes
    10. sell off your van and be stress free!!
    11. drive on and on and on, not forgetting the monthly repayments, that will be way less stressful thatn listening to beaters, trimmers, engine builders, ebay sellers saying everything is rare...

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    onya frank...i must agree but.

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    Quote Originally Posted by we wreck xx7s only View Post
    in order that i recommend nowaday when someone enters our shop;

    1. pick up phone
    2. arrange appointment with bank
    3. see how much you can get as in finance if you are not cashed up
    4. scour all forums and put feelers out
    5. find something done, that others have completed and done an amazing job on, even if it is way above your budget that you thought you were going to spend on your own rebuild(it soon blows out)
    6. give them the cash
    7. grab a bargain
    8. turn key
    9. enjoy immediately and if it bothers you to what others say as in "ohh thats ozbox's old van(sorry for using you as an example)you bought", simply make some subtle changes
    10. sell off your van and be stress free!!
    11. drive on and on and on, not forgetting the monthly repayments, that will be way less stressful thatn listening to beaters, trimmers, engine builders, ebay sellers saying everything is rare...
    Trust me that is probably a good idea.....
    HZ Jasmine Yellow Windowless Sandman, now being driven everywhere and is finished!
    HZ Madeira Red Windowless sandman now Sold to Bigrob
    HX Mandarin Red Sandman Ute finished, and club registered
    1979 HZ malachite windowless van with 308 5spd, all chromed up and shiny finished and named "The Player"
    Married to RodneyHZ253

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    Quote Originally Posted by we wreck xx7s only View Post
    in order that i recommend nowaday when someone enters our shop;

    1. pick up phone
    2. arrange appointment with bank
    3. see how much you can get as in finance if you are not cashed up
    4. scour all forums and put feelers out
    5. find something done, that others have completed and done an amazing job on, even if it is way above your budget that you thought you were going to spend on your own rebuild(it soon blows out)
    6. give them the cash
    7. grab a bargain
    8. turn key
    9. enjoy immediately and if it bothers you to what others say as in "ohh thats ozbox's old van(sorry for using you as an example)you bought", simply make some subtle changes
    10. sell off your van and be stress free!!
    11. drive on and on and on, not forgetting the monthly repayments, that will be way less stressful thatn listening to beaters, trimmers, engine builders, ebay sellers saying everything is rare...
    If we all did that then no more vans/utes would get restored and they would end up at the crusher.

    Most of the positive advice given so far is on the money. I did a body off resto on my van and rego is now so close I can almost smell the paint on the number plates.

    When I stripped my van down I took pics of EVERYTHING and they proved to be invaluable when it came to pieceing it back together.....and a GMH spare parts book helps as well.

    Do what you can with the cash available at the time. When the cash temporarily runs out start cleaning stuff and painting or polishing....that costs bugger all. When you save up a bit more cash go get the bits you need to make some progress. It's taken me 2 1/2 years so far and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.......and I know it's not someone holding a torch.

    If the van has heaps of rust then go do a welding course at your local TAFE and learn a skill for life. I learnt, on the run, from my panel beater mate and in no time I was cutting chunks out of the body and welding in new stuff. It saved me heaps of $'s.

    The trick to the whole process is be consistent and persistant. I made a point of doing at least one hour on the van per night ( which usually turned into 3 or 4) otherwise nothing gets done, although winter slows things down a bit because it's too cold in the garage at night so most of the work is done on the weekend at the moment.....but I do work on it every weekend. At the end of each week you will be able to see where you've been then before you know it you'll be ready for primer or putting the body back on or fitting the drive train....whatever.

    I didn't worry too much about what the van was going to be worth when it's finished.....thats not why I built it. The short version is that I built it simply because I wanted one. I don't mean that in a smart arse kind of way.....but that is the basic truth of the matter. I could have spent months trying to find a Sandman that had been restored and forked out a heap of cash for it.....but, in all probability, would still have had to spend more cash on it to get it the way I want it because I'm almost certain nobody would have built one the way I wanted. I was going for the "off the showroom floor" look but without going to the "enth" degree of restoredness (new word for the dictionary)...also known as "rivet counting"

    There is nothing more satisfying than sitting in the "pondering chair" out in the garage and looking at what I have achieved in 2 1/2 years compared to what I started with and how it got to be like it is.

    Stick with it and save another van.

    You can read about my adventure here... http://www.mysandman.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=15
    Last edited by GTS; 19-08-2011 at 09:29 AM.

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