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    Yeah I know the van your talking about on ebay and funnily enough was just thinking this morning whether I should go for it. what do you think would be a fair price for that one, I imagine as you go up a model HX and HZ the price is going to increase a couple of grand each time, would the HZ be considered the most valueable and is this just because they were the last models, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hj308 View Post
    Yeah I know the van your talking about on ebay and funnily enough was just thinking this morning whether I should go for it. what do you think would be a fair price for that one,
    It is worth as much as you are prepared to pay for a Deauville blue windowless HJ 308 4sp Sandman van that needs a full restoration. Value often depends on how much a particular person wants a particular car, the value to that person can go up or down depending on model, colour, engine-gearbox combination and with vans whether it has windows or is windowless.

    To me, the $4000 starting price is the maximum I would consider paying for that van as there is a lot of work in it to restore it...... but I also already have a Sandman van so don't desire it nearly as much as someone who doesn't have one.
    4/75 HJ XX7 Sandman Panelvan ... Persian Sand currently restoring
    7/76 HX Monaro 4dr 308 4sp... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell.. SOLD
    3/77 HX Sandman Panelvan ... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell .. SOLD

    http://www.44gpw.info/sandman-decalssmall2.jpg

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    Yeah point taken, my preference is a windowless 308 4 speed, have some serious thinking to do this afternoon have just got off the phone from talking to the owner, I think one of the problems is that after you buy something you should stop looking as their always seems to be something else coming along that catches your eye and gets you thinking, ah thats the beauty of life I guess you never know whats coming up, and why do they always seem to be in just about every other state except NSW and more often than not Victoria?? Wonder how the missus would react to two panel vans sitting in the backyard (currently in process of getting plans together for a new shed).

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    This is an interesting one, because your van has all the gts gear and the plates are good too BUT the glove box lid has been replaced so we don't know what tyre placard the car originally had... But your photos of the evidence of removed headlining strip suggest you either have a;
    • Base model van that has been Fully GTS optioned and with full headlining.
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    • Sandman

    It's a tough one because you don't have books with the car to confirm or deny so you're stuck in a real grey area. Keep searching the history of the car if you can.

    If someone can post close up pics of an exposed headlining strip please do so. I will try and get a shot of mine when I hit the shed next, because the screw holes are not factory, the headlining strip was welded in I believe.

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    The screw holes you can see are from the small aluminium brackets that were put on by a previous owner, I removed them for the photos taken (have some before and after) someone has stuck insulation to the ceiling so I think when they have done this (maybe a backyard job) they couldnt workout how to utilise the headlining bracket so they have removed it altogether and made up their own brackets to attach the insulation and black velvet. From memory there was about 6-8 of these brackets with 2 screw holes in each of them and they are the screw holes you can see in the photos.

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    So there was definitely a headlining strip there?
    It's a real shame the headlining strip has been removed, a real shame, if only you had the original glove box and tyre placard.

    Personally it seems strange that someone back in 1975 would order a base model van and order up and pay for all the extra gts options, rather than just order a Sandman.

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    I agree Blocker was just thinking the same to myself wondering what the cost difference would have been to order a base model with all the option rarther than a straight out sandman, you would think that it would have been quite possible for it to work out cheaper with a sandman. It just doesnt seem to make sense for a guy to walk in and order a 308, 4 speed V8 with with all the extras and not be tempted to go for the standard sandman. Not sure if you can tell by the photos by there still some of the actual teeth from the bracket still attached and also some of the spot weld marks. I found a picture last night I think it was the Monaroparts wwebsite or similair?? and it had a photo of the bracket attached and fully exposed. I am convinced that the remains are in fact a hood lining bracket but that doesnt prove it is the real deal obviously. I am presently trying to back track through the previous owners but wont hold to much hope on that one.

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