Could this be a sandman - Chassis swap

**wbute** · 23-09-2011, 07:56 AM

This is my last entry to this debate.... I hope.
When some low life moron steals your car, you go to the police, they ask for the identifying numbers to aid in recovery. There is no point telling them the option codes off the id plates is there. You give them the chassis number and the engine number. Why do we do this? Because they are the legal identity of the car.

**ozbox** · 23-09-2011, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by wbute

This is my last entry to this debate.... I hope.
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**HK1837** · 23-09-2011, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by ambientgoat

Now on the other two matters, that's up to each individual buyer and seller. To debate that would be as productive as me arguing with Byron that a supermint with stripes, HZ 253 4speed is the best sandman ever. While he is of the opinion that DL7 not green and 308 auto is the way forward. I mean, clearly I'm right and green and manual is best, but there is no future in me trying to sell this concept to Byron. So in that instance agreeing to disagree is fine, and we can all walk away from the argument feeling we know what's right.

Goat is right, value is basically governed by what someone will pay. When it comes to vehicles, that value is governed by many things. As goat has said, I would pay more money for a 173 trimatic not-green HJ Sandman than I would for a green 253 4spd HZ Sandman in the same condition. The long term top dollar car to me is the most highly optioned first car of a run. So that means a HQ Kingswood Sandman ute in 308 trimatic with air and steer, and this would be my choice closely followed by a HJ with the same boxes ticked. However what is good is that others disagree and like other versions better.
How that flows across to cars missing their original chassis to me is the car gets devalued as a result, probably by as much as 50%, however that may not deter someone from paying more. Personally, if I was to look at buying a restored HJ TH400 308 Sandman ute that didn't have its original chassis I would expect it would be worth less than if it had its chassis, but I wouldn't expect to pay half of what the numbers matching car was worth. If the numbers matching car was worth $25k, I'd probably happily pay $18k or so, however others may not.

**wbute** · 24-09-2011, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by ozbox

You were right to laugh

So is this a commodore or a patrol

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Unfinishe...#ht_777wt_1156

**playwme** · 24-09-2011, 08:52 PM

That's a hunk of junk, and if it wasn't for the price it might be good as a donor engine and that's about it.

Definitely not a Patrol, given that it has a Landcruiser chassis.

**mauser** · 24-09-2011, 08:55 PM

the question is not what it is but why???

Mauser

**Kiwivan** · 25-09-2011, 06:49 AM

Has anyone read the lastest unque car magazine about the chassis swaps?Basicly backs OZ 100% about the ID.And the trouble you can get into.

Cheers Kiwivan

**mauser** · 25-09-2011, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Kiwivan

Has anyone read the lastest unque car magazine about the chassis swaps?Basicly backs OZ 100% about the ID.And the trouble you can get into.

Cheers Kiwivan

Not trouble for swapping a chassis but for re-stamping a chassis... that's always been illigal. I myself never bothered about rebodies too much... I always thought there were more XW/Y GT's around that could of possibly survived anyway.

The interesting point to me was about advertising a car as "origional" when lots of reproduction parts are used in a restoration. I thought that was drawing a long bow.

Mauser

**Kiwivan** · 25-09-2011, 12:25 PM

It is a case of buyer beware!But now the seller could be in the shyte for not advertising correctly.When does your car lose it's originality??.

Cheers Kiwivan