Is this a sandman

[wbute]

Yeah agree Sandaro but they are all listed the same weight in the owners manual. It can't be correct. If adding AC changes it surly adding a roof has to change it more?
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[HK1837]

Yeah agree Sandaro but they are all listed the same weight in the owners manual. It can't be correct. If adding AC changes it surly adding a roof has to change it more?
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Owners manual is correct for the weights, they are 6cyl GVW (2155kg). The V8 add 91kg is wrong I think.

Ute can carry 15.5cwt (775kg), take that off 2155 and you get the kerb weight 1380kg (close enough to 1354kg).
Van can carry 14.5cwt (725kg), taken off 2155 gives you a kerb weight of 1430kg (close enough to 1414kg).

Basically the difference is a van weighs more.

I don't have detailed HX weights but here is HZ to provide example comparison (Tare is Curb less fuel +2 galls (basically 9 litres)). Vehicles are standard, so for example 6cyl will be 202 3spd. V8 will be 253 3spd. Sandman will be 253 4spd.
Tare is delivery weight, ie the weight used for registration. Some of them don't seem to work when you start doing sums but that is how they are published.

HZ Holden van, Tare = 1386kg, Curb = 1429kg.
HZ Holden van V8, Tare = 1456kg, Curb = 1501kg.
HZ Holden Sandman van, Tare = 1499kg, Curb = 1544kg.
HZ Holden Sandman XX7 van, Tare = 1496kg, Curb = 1541kg.

HZ Holden ute, Tare = 1321kg, Curb = 1356kg.
HZ Holden ute V8, Tare = 1393kg, Curb = 1438kg.
HZ Holden Sandman ute, Tare = 1436kg, Curb = 1481kg.
HZ Holden Sandman XX7 ute, Tare = 1433kg, Curb = 1478kg.

Rear axle max weight for a 1950kg GVW van is 1116kg, so they rate the tyres as good for half that which is 558kg. 1900kg GVW max rear axle load is 1089kg which means each tyre is good for 544.5kg.

I don't have the actual load rating of ER70H14 tyres but they must have been good for the weight of the rear axle of a HZ Sandman van with 10cwt (500kg) load on board. The whole point of the passenger tyre was to give the commercials (ute and van) a max load capacity of 500kg. Modern versions which are 205/70/14 are 95 load rated which is 690kg. 215/65/14 is close also and are 670kg.

A/C adds 41kg in HZ for both 6cyl and V8, HX will be all but the same. But the HX list the same tyre placard for HX 10cwt V8 ute (XU4 or XX7) with A/C as the same placard as a HX 10cwt V8 van (non-A/C 10cwt ute has a different placard). If the 1950kg GVW instead of 1860kg is not a mistake it has to be due to A/C. BUT, I got it looked up and this car wasn't fitted with integrated A/C.

acmd, can you get me photos of the plates?