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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post
    Yeah well if that does your head in Dave, get a load of this offering from Rare Spares no less.
    Politely, um no, its a different document, it doesnt designate the origin of the vehicle. In any case it would be pretty difficult to fill in every service record with original dealer stamps and stapled receipts. But more than that, I got a sneaking suspicion itwill be printed somewhere in there that the booklet is a replica. Perhaps, if I'm wrong, Rares may soon correct this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLR_dave View Post
    Politely, um no, its a different document, it doesnt designate the origin of the vehicle. In any case it would be pretty difficult to fill in every service record with original dealer stamps and stapled receipts. But more than that, I got a sneaking suspicion itwill be printed somewhere in there that the booklet is a replica. Perhaps, if I'm wrong, Rares may soon correct this.
    Of course it does, dealers fill in the very first page with all the same details and receipts were rarely ever added to the service and maintenance booklet. "If" it does have replica inside it and I very much doubt it. It would likely say "re-print" and this is even found evident in many genuine GMH documents. Dating is the way to tell them apart with some other small differences. Perhaps the word "Reproduction" would suffice? Either way it seems to me your well out on your own based on responses with this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLR_dave View Post
    Anyway, my intention earlier in this thread was to canvas opinion on whether somebody should approach Holden about this, and then a day or so after, still awaitng opinion, asked if anybody wanted to supply a contact, I suppose I am beginning to get an answer, however, I'd put that at about 50/50 atm. My approach, was to present my opinion and ask this site if anyone had approached Holden, as is evident in the thread.
    If you are asking for opinions Dave (you already have mine!).
    This document is fine. It is a genuine GMH paperwork and like all other GMH documents we glean information from them and add it to our collective knowledge.

    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    They don't infringe copyright either though. They are not a reproduction,as far as the add reads anyway. They are NOS I assume.
    I can't see any issue with them.
    Most people would have thrown these things out the first time they cleaned out the glove box or more so when they sold the car. No one wants their personal details left in the car. You often see them blacked out of the owners manual for that reason.
    Yep = Ephemera and New Old Stock (NOS) Genuine document.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post
    This document is fine. It is a genuine GMH paperwork and like all other GMH documents we glean information from them and add it to our collective knowledge.
    Politely, (in this calm and tranquil new year), thats my other issue with it.
    If such a document is filled out unfaithfully in order to improve the value of a car, the information gleaned in the future (by a future generation) may be distorted. I, personally, dont think it's right. However, a good look through the thread shows both different, as well as similar opinion/thinking. In any case this thread is older now, and the ebay auction has ended. I think, come the full restart of the year (around the 10th) I will quietly have an investigate of how GMH veiws the entire matter of the sale of NOS and also reproduced dealer certificates. I am of course reminded that I will eat my hat if they laugh at me. I promise that if that is the case I will arrange a hat eating session (what better way to start the year) Big Grins -Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLR_dave View Post
    I promise that if that is the case I will arrange a hat eating session (what better way to start the year) Big Grins -Dave.
    Hopefully you don't need to Dave but if you do my sincere wish for you is that you don't wear a sombrero lol

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