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    Quote Originally Posted by ozbox View Post
    in the world terms there is really only a couple of australian cars that can truly claim to be a muscle car...
    to me a sandman or any van with a decent motor is a fun car and part of my youth and now part of my oncoming dementia..................
    Does that mean too quote you ozbox that there a "funny car"???
    Are'nt they more designed for the 1/4 mile???? :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:

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    Quote Originally Posted by freestyler1 View Post
    Does that mean too quote you ozbox that there a "funny car"???
    Are'nt they more designed for the 1/4 mile???? :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:

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    There is a huge difference between a 'Funny car' class and a car that is fun to drive.

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    I would class the Sandman (vans and utes) as muscle cars. I guess that it's up to everybodies independant opinion. To me, an aussie muscle car is a factory V8 or factory worked 6 that looks and sounds tough. Thats a Sandman, I would say 'Sandmans - Muscle Cars and Something Else'.
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    Very hard to define.

    Is a HT Monaro a muscle car? Most would say yes. But what if it only had a 186s engine. If that makes the answer no then is it the engine that makes it a muscle car?

    If this is true then an 308 Sandman is as much a muscle car as any of the 308 Monaros.

    If it is just based on the body then an LJ Torana 2 door no matter what description is a muscle car.

    Does it have to race around Bathurst? That discounts a whole bunch of 1970s Holden 4 doors.

    Does it have to be the body shape and the motor combined. Therefore a HZ Monaro 308 sound like it meets the criteria but what about an HZ Premier with a 308.

    Very hard to clearly identify.

    As time goes on and the divisions become more blurred I think a Sandman could fit the bill to be called a muscle car. It has the motor, the sportiness factor, just missing the race history.

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    Does it count if a Panelvan has been around Mount Panorama

    Quote Originally Posted by HZSandman View Post
    Very hard to define.

    Is a HT Monaro a muscle car? Most would say yes. But what if it only had a 186s engine. If that makes the answer no then is it the engine that makes it a muscle car?

    If this is true then an 308 Sandman is as much a muscle car as any of the 308 Monaros.

    If it is just based on the body then an LJ Torana 2 door no matter what description is a muscle car.

    Does it have to race around Bathurst? That discounts a whole bunch of 1970s Holden 4 doors.

    Does it have to be the body shape and the motor combined. Therefore a HZ Monaro 308 sound like it meets the criteria but what about an HZ Premier with a 308.

    Very hard to clearly identify.

    As time goes on and the divisions become more blurred I think a Sandman could fit the bill to be called a muscle car. It has the motor, the sportiness factor, just missing the race history.
    When Rodney was friends with my then boyfriend we all went to Bathurst for the weekend, to see INXS the year was 1982....we went up the Mountain in Rodney's Sandman and he took us for a lap (no cops around much in those days) anyway we went around the zigzag bends, just before Conrod, and about 3 of us girls were sitting up in the back and he had it going so fast one of the back wheels lifted of the ground...and yes I was scarred and no my parents didn't know I involved in that....and yes I would kill my kids if they did that....for some reason we didn't end up going to see INXS which was one of the things I do regret not doing....
    my point being does doing that in a Sandman entitle it to be a race van

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    I did a lap around the mount a few years ago in my WB. It sounds pretty nice with a 2" twin system and a lukey muffler and the 253 has a mild cam in it. I did a couple of laps and then a nice HSV commodore followed me around for a full lap, with the cam corder hanging out the window filming my old ute. It made me smile that someone in flash HSV reckoned the old wb was worth filming! I gave it bit to of course.

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